Barron's Uber Weapon Sale Has Ended (in Public Record)
I am very disappointed with the bids. Nobody won.
You all know what I have. I'll sell to someone who really wants a good weapon.
October 8 2005 9:34 PM EDT
So instead of putting up min bids, you just wasted everyones time.
Thank you very much.
who honestly goes by min bids anymore, you put a min up, people bid 4 mil under min anyways...lol.
October 9 2005 4:53 PM EDT
Um, you were disappointed with my bids?
Rare single ammo doesn't sell for much. Pft. But hey, whatever.
This was a waste of two threads.
that's why i withdrew my bid :P
October 9 2005 7:33 PM EDT
And you think I won the poker game?
Looks like I bluffed with a crappy hand.
October 9 2005 7:39 PM EDT
" So instead of putting up min bids, you just wasted everyones time. "
I'm left wondering who really ended up with wasted time. And as someone said earlier, why bother with min bids? I had so many people offering the stupidest offers on stuff I had marked for insta in my sale. At one point, someone actually offered me 500k (seriously, and no this person wasn't new) for my 3mil NW ELB.
October 9 2005 7:41 PM EDT
Yes, but if you post min bids and a fool posts a lower bid you can laugh it off. But to not put any min bids and then say all the bids were too low is wasting everyone who bid time.
October 9 2005 7:43 PM EDT
But come on Ranger, a 4.5mil bid on something with a NW of nearly 7.5mil, base value of around 2mil, and named? I realize that people look for the best deals possible, but that bid was insanely low and you know it.
October 9 2005 7:47 PM EDT
I actually bid 4.9 million for the MH, and yes its low, but how well are high NW weapons selling for lately?
October 9 2005 7:50 PM EDT
I still have yet to see them go at that rate.
October 9 2005 9:44 PM EDT
Alucard sold Hellfire (a named ELB that was over 7.5mil NW) for 4 million, so one could argue that a named MH of similar NW should go for a similar amount given base ELB's and MH's go for about the same.
So really 4.9M is actually quite a good deal - IMO your kidding yourself if you think you'll get 2M + 80% of NW for a big weapon.
I think it just screams laziness when people don't bother putting min bids on items and then saying when their auction finishes that the bids are too low. If you have some sort of price in mind that you won't sell the items for less than for goodness sake tell us rather than laughing at the bids. It will save alot of time for you and the bidders.
October 9 2005 9:47 PM EDT
October 9 2005 9:57 PM EDT
Word to yo motha, even!
October 9 2005 9:58 PM EDT
Wasn't Alucard selling out however? Big difference in selling items because you're selling out and selling items.
I put min bids on my auction and still got some of the most asinine bids via CM.
If you can manage to buy a 7.5 mil NW MH for 4 mil, then by all means, go for it. However, I don't see the point in giving Barron flak because he won't sell it for a similar price.
October 9 2005 10:21 PM EDT
"Wasn't Alucard selling out however? Big difference in selling items because you're selling out and selling items."
Yes I think he was selling out, however that doesn't necessarily mean you will be selling things cheaper, your still going to want to get as much money as you can for your items. The ELB had a BIN put on it of 4mil at the start of his second FS post - if it was "insanely low" why weren't people lining up to take the BIN - it still took almost a day before someone took it.
The question of whether 4.9M is a reasonable price for the MH isn't the issue, Barron can sell it for any price he chooses.
I was more annoyed that he didn't put MIN bids on his items then laughed at the bids he was getting on some of them but still wouldn't suggest minimum prices he would be prepared to sell the items at.
"I put min bids on my auction and still got some of the most asinine bids via CM."
Yes that's annoying but that shouldn't be a reason not to put MIN bids on items. We have laws against murdering people, people still get murdered - does that mean we should do away with that law just because some people choose to ignore it?
The point of min bids isn't just to stop the seller being inundated with ridiculous bids, it's for the buyers benefit as well, it's nice to know when you make a bid whether or not the seller will actually sell to you at that price.
Imagine going into a shop and finding that no items had prices marked on them. You take something up to the counter and ask how much it is, you offer an amount and the shop keeper instead of accepting your offer or making a counter offer laughs at you. How annoying would that be?
October 9 2005 10:32 PM EDT
Or rather, you offer an amount and the seller says, "Let me get back to you about that in a few days, so I can see if I'll get better offers." - and then you set aside the money, wait 2 or 3 days, come back and not only has the seller received no other offers, but he laughs at yours.
October 9 2005 10:38 PM EDT
Derek, you do a wonderful job of comparing CB2 to real life when it's not even close.
October 9 2005 11:55 PM EDT
October 10 2005 2:50 AM EDT
I think Ranger's bid of 4.9 mil was a fair bid on that MH. You wouldn't get a better offer than that unless some rich kid comes along and decided to spend huge amount of USD on this game.
There are pros and cons to having min bids. Say I put a min bid of 5 mil and Ranger wasn't willing to spend more than 4.9 mil and thus didn't bid on the item. I would have lost the sale. However, if I didn't put a min bid and Ranger bid 4.9 mil, I would have accepted the bid cause it's only 100k less than what I wanted for a min.
My suggestion to Barron is to discuss the price with Ranger through CM to see if they can meet half way between Ranger's bid of 4.9 mil and Barron's expected min price.
October 10 2005 7:46 AM EDT
Sometimes there's this problem with the seller, they put minimum bid, but they won't sell it for minimum, if the price is in the middle or very close to BIN, he/she will then sell the items. I think if people refuse to sell the item, then so be it. It's not like you're really wasting too much time, unless you went as far as get a loan, etc. I mean, if the price decrease in the future, then they will surely be hitting themselves, but if the price increases, then good for them. =)
I think that the easiest solution is to include a MIN BID ... if you go to an auction in real life they include a starting bid .. As long as you know what you want for the item setting a MIN shouldn't be very difficult .. it sure makes life easier on the bidder. . .and it keeps everybody happy
October 16 2005 12:05 PM EDT
Funny how things work out.
I bought the MH in auctions for only 4,410,000.
So I actually saved 500k on the whole deal!
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