Dispel Magic help please (in General)

Vicious Cat October 13 2005 7:43 AM EDT

Just reading through the forums and now I'm confused all over again :-(
Does Dispel Magic not work against your opponents AMF? The spell description seems to say this, but I had always assumed that it affected ALL AMFs.

QBJohnnywas October 13 2005 7:45 AM EDT

Dispel magic when cast on an opponent dispels all enchantments cast on that opponent. However their AMF is cast on you not them. So Dispel Magic doesn't affect it.

AdminShade October 13 2005 7:45 AM EDT

From the wiki:

Dispel Magic (DM)

* Used to weaken your opponents enchantments. (Enchantments they cast on themselves)
* Weakens the casting of your own Antimagic Field and Ethereal Chains spells.

QBJohnnywas October 13 2005 7:50 AM EDT

Your Dispel Magic works against your own AMF because you cast AMF on your opponent. By using both spells, unless you are clever about it and have an AMF larger than your Dispel Magic, you are negating your own AMF.

Vicious Cat October 13 2005 7:52 AM EDT

LOL <sigh> back to the ole drawing board

48Zach October 13 2005 8:03 AM EDT

Thats some good info , never knew that

Vicious Cat October 13 2005 8:15 AM EDT

Cheers guys - just done some experimentation (well, what else is the NUB for?).
It seems that I have some more thought to put into my strategy, coming down to a straight choice between GA and DM.
Thanks for everyones help


AdminShade October 13 2005 8:20 AM EDT

choice between GA and DM? you can use both perfectly together :)

Vicious Cat October 13 2005 8:33 AM EDT

Only if you take another 'slots worth' of XP.

QBOddBird October 13 2005 9:06 AM EDT

I'm no fan of DM. You'll find in the future that the fairly common base decays employed by characters will make AMF the superior choice.

AdminNightStrike October 13 2005 11:09 PM EDT

Is DM an "all or nothing" deal? Or does it weaken enchantments? I ask because if it's not all or nothing, I can't see how having both AMF and DM would work even if AMF is larger than DM.

Sukotto [lookingglas] October 13 2005 11:27 PM EDT

It weakens. But its effect is very strong and can fizzle (or greatly reduce) much higher enchantments.

BrandonLP October 13 2005 11:29 PM EDT

AMF doesn't affect DM. DM affects the AMF you cast.

AdminNightStrike October 13 2005 11:38 PM EDT

Ok, so if your AMF is higher than your DM, is your AMF totally unaffected by your DM? Moreover, does DM have zero effect when it is weaker than an enchantment, or will it still cause a small reduction?

Sukotto [lookingglas] October 13 2005 11:43 PM EDT

Your DM will fizzle (or reduce)

  1. Things your opponent casts:
    • Ablative Shield
    • Giant Strength
    • Guardian Angel
    • Haste
    • Protection
    • Vampiric Aura
  2. Things you cast:
    • Ethereal Chains
    • Antimagic Field

So, if you have DM
  1. Anything from #1 that your opponent casts gets reduced.
  2. Anything from #2 that you cast gets reduced

Likewise, if your opponent has DM, anything in #1 that you cast gets reduced

Sukotto [lookingglas] October 13 2005 11:45 PM EDT

DM always reduces other enchantments. If its level is low, the amount it reduces is low. If its level is high, it completely wipes out other enchantments.

sssimmo October 13 2005 11:48 PM EDT

Good explaination Sukotto.

If anyone needs more help understanding then maybe you should give up on ever understanding it.
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