New Account On Banned IP Address (in Public Record)

BlueWolf February 6 2006 10:32 PM EST

someone must be a computer nerd, because if a cookie is put on your computer when you are banned, someone got around it.

the banned IP is

the banned accounts on this IP are as follows:

Hellakite, Draken12, Drake101, Wyvern125, Wyvern12



please look into this any multi hunters or admins who happen to read this

Xiaz on Hiatus February 6 2006 10:35 PM EST

is it, a magic cookie?

BlueWolf February 6 2006 10:38 PM EST

dunno, but now people are telling me that the IP wasn't banned, well then memories come flying back about an old friend who was banned because of his kid.

BlueWolf February 6 2006 10:42 PM EST

oh, computer cookie, is like a "bug", they do lots of things.

they can record things, and they can also stop you from doing things. but business sites can only give you the recording cookie

Xiaz on Hiatus February 6 2006 10:43 PM EST

wow, so the cookie did a disappearing act? it is magical! :D

QBOddBird February 6 2006 10:43 PM EST

holy cow, what's with the eyesore of a title?

banning the accounts on an IP = you find the accounts using a particular IP, and you ban the accounts themselves.

an actual IP or ISP ban is totally different.

BlueWolf February 6 2006 10:45 PM EST

i've already been told off enough about the title, and now i'm regretting even bothering to look at this info, but whatever, do what you want, ignore it, take a little action, but i'm not dealing with it anymore.

btw, i just thought it was important, i was only going to do three words in caps, but my caps lock button got stuck.

Undertow February 6 2006 10:54 PM EST

There is a difference between banning an account and banning an IP. When you ban an account it's like banning a single person in a hosue, when you ban an IP, it's like banning everyone at that persons address.

Bartjan (I think it was Bartjan) banned 5 or so accounts that belonged to a single person, that reset him, but did not ban his main account. He gave the person I warning, and wants them to continue to play.

When you ban someones account, it's possible for them to just create a new one. If you ban their IP, they won't ever be allowed to log in/create an account from their own computer's address.

However, it's possible for multiple users to have the same IP, and not even live that close to eachother. AOL is a good example, everyone on AOL has the same IP.

That's why they use an IP ban as a last resort, they dont' want to accidently stop someone else from playing the game. But if someone just can't take the hint, and keeps making new accounts, they ban the IP.

In this case, it was just an account ban, not an IP ban, no harm no foul.

Also, although I'm not sure how, and am pretty sure it's not easy, it's possible to change your IP address. So even if this person was IP banned, them comming back isn't "magic." Just a little hard work and some knowledge.

Banning is not tracked through a cookie on your own machine. You can clear your cookies, or just switch computers, it won't switch your ban. Banning is tracked on the server. It logs banned IP's, and when you try to access the site they check your IP. If it's banned, no CB for you.

So.... yah. It's okay, no need to flip and like a ninja and kill someone. Just breathe.

Maelstrom February 6 2006 11:23 PM EST

Whoa. Far out.

[T]Vestax February 6 2006 11:31 PM EST

Edited the title of this post.

You shouldn't have to be told that such a long title in all caps is an annoyance to the community. I should also directly to the faqs where you will learn that Admins are not the only people who can answer questions. Tow here has done an excellent job of explaining what has happened and is not an admin as far as I know.

I try not to do this often but I feel that a fine is in order. Next time use some forethought before naming your posts.

AdminShade February 7 2006 12:11 AM EST

Ever thought of s NON multi account being on that IP address and being allowed to continue to play?

bartjan February 7 2006 12:40 AM EST

As far as I can tell, hellakite and Faythless are not related to each other.

BlueWolf February 7 2006 10:39 AM EST

blame blarg then, i told him what i found, and he told me to post it here.

I will not respond again.

[T]Vestax February 7 2006 11:02 AM EST

It's not that you responded that is the issue. We don't want you to think that we don't appreciate your post. I only had a problem with how you decided to post it.

As for the IP issue. You should just remember what was said here. It's better to point out a possible multi when abuse occurs, such as one-sided transfers, rather then just matching IPs.

Thanks Blue.

Blarg February 7 2006 2:10 PM EST

don't blame me, I tried telling you what undertow told you, I just didn't care enough at the moment. When I said post, I was thinking you'd post something like a polite inquiery on the multi thread already there, not that you'd be stupid and make a panicking post all caps. Don't blame me for you
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