Looking for data on Unarmed Combat (UC) (in General)


AdminShade February 10 2006 12:17 PM EST

Yes I am lazy (for once) because I know that there is a possibility that there already has been a thread with UC measurement points.

what I need / want is:

The stats of your trained Unarmed Combat including the EXACT unlearn experience from your training screen.

If you have armor that gives bonuses and/or penalties, make some combinations and copy paste all the data you can generate:

example:

Unarmed Combat: 123,456 (78) (without penalties/bonuses)
Unlearn for 9,012,345

Unarmed Combat: 234,567 / 123,456 (xx) (with bonuses from an item)
Unarmed Combat: 345,678 / 123,456 (xx) (with 2 items giving you bonuses)
Unarmed Combat: 456,789 / 123,456 (xx) (with 3 items giving you bonuses)
Unarmed Combat: 90,123 / 123,456 (xx) (with an item giving you a penalty

and so on...


Note 1: When you have items giving you bonuses / penalties, also unequip them and let me know your TRULY trained UC level, effect and untrain info.

Note 2: yes these are non real, fictive numbers, just to make an example.

PirateKing February 10 2006 12:22 PM EST

Unarmed Combat: 104,457 (34)
Unlearn for: 1,042,677

QBBarzooMonkey February 10 2006 12:28 PM EST

Unarmed Combat: 350,005 (57)
Unlearn for: 3,863,104

AdminShade February 10 2006 12:29 PM EST

addition to the first post:

If you have armor that gives bonuses and/or penalties, make some combinations and copy paste all the data you can generate:

example:

Unarmed Combat: 123,456 (78) (without penalties/bonuses)
Unarmed Combat: 234,567 / 123,456 (xx) (with bonuses from an item)
Unarmed Combat: 345,678 / 123,456 (xx) (with 2 items giving you bonuses)
Unarmed Combat: 456,789 / 123,456 (xx) (with 3 items giving you bonuses)
Unarmed Combat: 90,123 / 123,456 (xx) (with an item giving you a penalty

and so on.

QBBarzooMonkey February 10 2006 12:35 PM EST

Shade, I'll do that 2nd part for you later on today :)

PirateKing February 10 2006 12:40 PM EST

Ok Shade, here it is:

UC alone: 104,457 (34)

UC with Elven Boots(+7): 111,768 (35)

UC with Named Helm's Gauntlets(+12): 297,232 (54)

UC with both of the above items: 311,479 (55)


My only Combat Gi is currently being rented out, so I can't get those numbers for you.(I don't use one anyway... I find the St and Dx bonuses from a ToA much more useful than the +10 to UC that the Gi gives)

PirateKing February 10 2006 12:42 PM EST

Oh yeah. I also use a HoE, but that imparts neither bonus nor penalty to UC.

AdminShade February 10 2006 12:49 PM EST

Indeed, HoE doesn't have a DX bonus / penalty so doesn't affect the UC skill.

Joy Potter February 10 2006 5:25 PM EST

(without penalties/bonuses)
Unarmed Combat: 7,476 (8)
Unarmed Combat: 10,716 (10)
Unarmed Combat: 17,934 (14)
Unarmed Combat: 20,302 (15)
Unarmed Combat: 23,165 (16)
Unarmed Combat: 28,341 (18)
Unarmed Combat: 31,341 (19)
Unarmed Combat: 34,239-37,431 (20)
Unarmed Combat: 37,756-41,191 (21)
Unarmed Combat: 41,403 (22)
Unarmed Combat: 49,011 (23)
Unarmed Combat: 52,931 (24)
Unarmed Combat: 53,485-55,688 (25)
Unarmed Combat: 62,701 (27)
Unarmed Combat: 72,390 (29)
Unarmed Combat: 77,576 (30)
Unarmed Combat: 83,095-88,845 (31)
Unarmed Combat: 88,857 (32)
Unarmed Combat: 95,275-101,186 (33)
Unarmed Combat: 101,327 (34)
Unarmed Combat: 107,977-114,952 (35)
Unarmed Combat: 114,994 (36)
Unarmed Combat: 115,001 (36) (unlearn 1,156,553)

with combat gi or helm's gauntlets
Unarmed Combat: 122,441 (37)
Unarmed Combat: 130,586 (38)
Unarmed Combat: 138,014 (39)
Unarmed Combat: 146,308 (40)
Unarmed Combat: 155,064 (41)
Unarmed Combat: 164,033 (42)
Unarmed Combat: 182,029 (44)
Unarmed Combat: 191,473 (45)
Unarmed Combat: 201,430 (46)
Unarmed Combat: 211,727-212,434 (47)
Unarmed Combat: 223,099 (48)
Unarmed Combat: 233,692-234,586 (49)
Unarmed Combat: 245,344 (50)
Unarmed Combat: 258,038 (51)
Unarmed Combat: 270,212 (52)
Unarmed Combat: 283,393 (53)
Unarmed Combat: 296,838 (54)
Unarmed Combat: 341,045 (57)
Unarmed Combat: 357,022 (58)
Unarmed Combat: 373,530 (59)
Unarmed Combat: 391,142 (60)
Unarmed Combat: 408,587 (61)

QBBarzooMonkey February 10 2006 5:59 PM EST

UC alone: 350,005 (57)

UC with only named Gi (+54) 525,797 (67)

UC with only named Helm's Gauntlets(+13): 820,100 (78)

UC with both of the above items: 1,228,369 (88)

Add named Elven Boots(+14): 1,378,955 (91)

Add named Elven Cloak (+9): 1,490,430 (93)

Named HoE has no effect to UC level


AdminShade February 10 2006 7:41 PM EST

that's some hefty data indeed, will have it compiled tomorrow and uploaded to cbstuff.nl :)

AdminShade February 11 2006 7:00 AM EST

bump, updated the data on my pc, will upload the file later today or tomorrow, along with 2 screenshots of the graphs.

IndependenZ February 11 2006 7:24 AM EST

Here's my UC-data. Sorry for the late response, I hope it's still useful to you. I copied BarzooMonkey's layout, thanks for that!

UC alone: 269,801 (51)

UC with only a Combat Gi [1](+70): 409,430 (61)

UC with only a Pair of HelmÂ’s Gauntlets [4](+14): 644,342 (72)

UC with both of the above items: 964,743 (82)

Add a Pair of Elven Boots [6](+17): 1,133,311 (86)

Add an Elven Cloak [4](+11): 1,227,744 (88)

A Helm of Ecthelion [6](+15) has no effect on the level of UC.

AdminShade February 12 2006 8:21 AM EST

bump, i am sure there are more people using UC.

roy7 February 12 2006 2:55 PM EST

Unarmed Combat: 767 (1)
Unlearn Exp: 4135

Some data from a newb. :)

Wearing no armor or anything to affect UC.

AdminShade February 12 2006 3:42 PM EST

thanks for the input roy7 :)

I have all data up to the effect of (25) will need more people having higher UC's to enter their information!

QBOddBird February 12 2006 4:55 PM EST

Unfortunately, I untrained my once mighty UC'er. All I know is that around 650k base UC is 68, and with a Combat Gi and +13 HGs, that gives you (99) UC. I believe it was 657k, but I can't be 100% positive. Hopefully that helps a little.

QBOddBird February 12 2006 4:56 PM EST

Oh, and (99) UC with a strength of 320k will allow you to hit up to 120k.

AdminShade February 12 2006 5:23 PM EST

uploaded information to cbstuff.nl under the files section.

QBJohnnywas February 13 2006 2:54 PM EST

UC alone: 1,016,781 (83) - unlearn for 12, 181, 296

UC with only helms gauntlets (+10): 1,181,926 (98)

UC with only elven boots (+12) : 1,138,794 (86)

UC with both items: 2,051,229 (101)

AdminShade February 13 2006 3:33 PM EST

Johnny:

UC with only helms gauntlets (+10): 1,181,926 (98)

this one cannot be right.

QBJohnnywas February 13 2006 4:01 PM EST

sorry, typo on the helms - total should read 1,816,926.

;)

AdminShade February 13 2006 4:02 PM EST

thats better :)

QBJohnnywas February 17 2006 10:33 AM EST

Update on UC -

2,229,700 level UC (103).

QBJohnnywas February 17 2006 11:11 AM EST

Shade,

just to elaborate on that:

My basic - no bonus UC:

1,115,057 (85)

With +13 Elven Boots:

1,271,167 (88)

With +10 Helms Gauntlets:

1,970,863 (100)


And as just posted with both Elven Boots and Helms Gauntlets:

2,229,700 (103).

QBBarzooMonkey February 26 2006 3:54 PM EST

Johnnywas is going NCB, so I bought the Dodger from him to continue my "exploration" of UC. Here are his stats with Sensei Boopadoo's gear:

UC alone: 1,152,920 (86)

UC with only named Gi (+56) 1,677,464 (96)

UC with only named Helm's Gauntlets(+13): 2,633,284 (107)

UC with both of the above items: 4,013,853 (117)

Add named Elven Cloak(+9): 4,373,474 (119)

Add named Elven Boots (+14): 5,198,258 (123)

Holy cow! :)

QBJohnnywas February 26 2006 4:08 PM EST

123???!? Very very nice BM!

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] February 26 2006 4:12 PM EST

Add a HUGE (Full weapon allowance in NW) AXbow and that's a wicked sick tank killer....

AdminShade February 26 2006 5:01 PM EST

Looking for more data !!!

AdminShade February 26 2006 5:09 PM EST

To elaborate:

I am looking for any trained levels of Unarmed Combat that have an effect of at least 37.

If you can get your Unarmed Combat to have a certain level using items giving you bonuses OR penalties, please do so.

For your actual trained Unarmed Combat level, please include the untrain experience so i can fit that into the second graph also.

If you have several combination possibilities of bonuses / penalties, try to give me as many data points as possible.

Thank you in advance,


Shade.

AdminShade February 28 2006 4:26 PM EST

bump.
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