Has anyone noticed these 3 things? (in General)

WeaponX March 10 2006 10:01 AM EST

1 New players ask less and less questions.

2 There have been fewer changelogs in the last 3 changemonths than any previous 3 months since CB2 opened.

3 there has been 2 changemonths with no supporter items a very rare thing in CB1.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] March 10 2006 10:41 AM EST

Sure, buy not everyone else is able to jump as far to those conclusions MM.

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] March 10 2006 10:57 AM EST

i dont knwo about anyone else, but whenever i sign on the left sidebar doesnt work till i refresh it. (Doesnt work = business pop-up menu to goto, say, forge doesnt show up)

QBRanger March 10 2006 10:58 AM EST


Same thing happens to be. I cannot fight until I refresh the left frame.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] March 10 2006 11:03 AM EST

Wow and I thought I was the only one...

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] March 10 2006 11:08 AM EST

Doesnt amtter what browser either, happens on Firefox and IE for me.

AdminG Beee March 10 2006 11:39 AM EST

smallpau1, what's your home page on your browser ?

I ask because I've seen examples where the previous page visited on your browser causes issues for the CB sidebar.

Try changing your home page for the purposes of this test to something like Google or indeed the CB home page itself. Once you've done that close your browser and start again...

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] March 10 2006 11:56 AM EST

Bee: I use google for the home page on my computers, and still see it nearly every time I open FF

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] March 10 2006 12:14 PM EST

I use Google for my homepage with IE and I have no problems like this...

[T]Vestax March 10 2006 12:27 PM EST

No issues. Neither at work with IE or at home with FF.

[T]Vestax March 10 2006 12:29 PM EST

P.S. both have their home page set to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] March 10 2006 12:31 PM EST

At home on my FF, i use google as my home page, and at school, it varies between swic.edu, and a error in bringing up whatever home page it is for the activities board where the computer lab is at. wow, homepage isn't on spellchecker? =P

AdminNightStrike March 11 2006 4:11 PM EST

This topic should be split into two... none but the first reply are on topic.

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] March 11 2006 6:13 PM EST

3 topics now, cuz look, you made a useless post to make it 3 different topics. And plus, this wasn't on active threads until when you posted that pointless lines, gj! lol.

Grant March 11 2006 11:20 PM EST

I think less questions happen because wiki is improving.

WeaponX March 11 2006 11:22 PM EST

you actually believe new players read it?

QBBast [Hidden Agenda] March 11 2006 11:23 PM EST

What support is there for assumption 1?

{CB1}Lukeyman March 11 2006 11:25 PM EST

I agree with Bast, Megaman, I have never seen you in Np's :p

WeaponX March 11 2006 11:32 PM EST

i go there once a week and observe

QBBast [Hidden Agenda] March 11 2006 11:45 PM EST

Do you go when actual "new" players are present and when there is any likelihood that, should they get a question in, it might get answered?

I dropped in of an afternoon last week -- a delightful 3-year noob, but hardly newb, couldn't even get legitimate questions answered amidst the self-referential antics and stoogery. Estimate: 25 "in", 15 nattering wildly, 4 actual "new" players.

deifeln March 11 2006 11:48 PM EST


Ox [StephenMelinda Gates Fund] March 11 2006 11:52 PM EST

Natter: chew the fat; talk socially without exchanging too much information; "the men were sitting in the cafe and shooting the breeze"

QBBast [Hidden Agenda] March 12 2006 12:00 AM EST

Babbling, gabbling, prattling, jabbering, blathering, prating, etc. Any of these would be equally apt as descriptors.

Mantra March 12 2006 5:44 AM EST

I only play this game to see who Bast will bring down next. :) I love you Bast!

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] March 12 2006 7:42 PM EST

Sorry I haven't been in NP's recently otherwise I would help tame those prattling twits and answer some of those new players' questions. My comp went all cock eyed, so when I get back on I'll be back to helping those in NP's that really need the help.

QBsutekh137 March 12 2006 10:38 PM EST

I don't see how Bast's observation is in any way a "bring down" to MM's point number 1. "Why" newbies are asking fewer questions (because they aren't getting answers) was not his point.

If anything, Bast's observation supports MM's point.

The obvious interrogative corollary to MM's point would be "Why is that?", to which there are a multitude of possibilities. Judging by MM's previous posts (which regardless of my agreement or otherwise are generally well-made, unique, and pertinent), that is what he wanted to discuss. Not whether or not his points were "true".

[T]Vestax March 12 2006 11:08 PM EST

Just came from new players. I mostly just remember a blatant overuse of /me. I know that someone tossed another player a bloody rubrics cube and claimed he was taking other players and throwing them against thorns/spikes. Not to mention the kid I had to kick for saying the four letter word 'girl' too many times in a row. I'd tell you how many brain cells I lost but it seems I have forgotten how to count. I don't think its the sort of place where questions get answered anymore. I'll go back in after I get myself a bigger boot.

QBBast [Hidden Agenda] March 12 2006 11:57 PM EST

Oh, I'm all for determining the truth of a statement before having a discussion of any causes for it. Discussing all the reasons that an untrue statement is true seems like an inordinate waste of time.

Thus: what is behind the observation upon which we are being polled? My experience, as noted, does not agree nor disagree presently, so any further evidence would be welcome. (For all I know, the volume of questions asked, whether answered or not, has changed due to change in volume of actual new players. Or perhaps the volume of questions is unchanged.)

Someone earlier posted that they don't draw the same conclusions as Megaman. I don't see any conclusions, unless items 2 and 3 are supposed to be support for 1, while 1 is actually intimating that there are fewer new players than "some other time". If that's the case, 2 & 3 are pretty bad supports for Implied Statement 1. Or perhaps I missed something in the tangent portion of the thread, as I was doing my best to ignore that part.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] March 13 2006 3:19 AM EST

1) More and more new players are actually people who have played before and already know what they want to do to get the most out of their bonus time. >;P

1) Or maybe it's because things like the wiki are very helpful, and newer players can get a lot of thier questions answered from that instead of needing to ask in chat.

BootyGod March 13 2006 7:13 PM EST

For a bunch of people with alot of power you don't do much else besides talk do you? I mean Megaman I do not think you have much room to say if there is anything wrong with new players or not simply because "once a week" is not enough. Two Bast seems to get it but she spends a good bit of time in new players and only recently has spent more time in new players. Anothe thing is that new players almost never read helps and the old players expect the newer players to use help. Telling someone use Help for any question will not work. Another thing is that of those "nattering" people some are still helpful just talkative. Alot of the players in NP are actually helpful, if talkative. But for everyone who posted here, I hope you were in NP at the time. Trying your best to answer questions and keep it calm.
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