USD Sellers (in General)
April 29 2006 12:47 PM EDT
Why doesn't everyone just start selling at 15$ per million?
If we all did it, then the rate would go up that, and we'd all make more money!
And people would start buying, their addicted, they'll give their lives for this dumb game.
April 29 2006 12:55 PM EDT
or instead, there would be no one buying it at 15$, and some people who are more desperate to sell it would lower their price, and we'd be where we are right now...
No one will buy?
Sure they would, if you starve them enough and dont give in. The old USD rate used to be that. Maybe not 15 per mil. Should go back to the old rate of 13. That sounded fair.
April 29 2006 1:01 PM EDT
I guess instead of saying that, I meant to say that the prices will always be under the influence of supply and demand. Plus, theres no way to actually regulate the selling prices so people will drop their prices in an effort to gain a competitive edge upon their fellow sellers. There are many flaws in lukey's plan, and I don't think that he actually made this post in any amount of seriousness, so lets not blow it all out of proportion.
artificial inflation never works
April 29 2006 1:04 PM EDT
Too much suppliers; this is not an oligopoly.
you cant just make up words bart.... :P
and btw Lukey its the same with your loans soon you will be giving them away
April 29 2006 1:19 PM EDT
It is in the spell checker, and it's what they taught me in Economics class.
This is the same reason that forging prices have gone down the tubes. NUB suppliers seem to value their time less, and so have no interest in trying to get more money, they just get money quickly through their low prices. It's sad, really, but as Bart said, not much we can do about it.
Oh no, the nightmares of econ class!!!11one
I've seen forgers forging at 65%, which I think is unreasonable; they should be charging up towards 75% or even 80% to make a substantial amount of CB compared to fighting.
Artificial inflation works when it is an oligopoly, but as bart stated, it isn't. I mean heck, I'll support Lukey, but chances are it won't work too well.
$15, that's a big inflation. I say $13 is reasonable.
April 29 2006 7:02 PM EDT
The 'old' rate on CB1 used to be $10 USD/Mil if you want to be truly accurate.
April 29 2006 10:28 PM EDT
That was when the regulars..(stupid NUB) people were getting like, 600$ per fight and everything.
Cartels seldom actually accomplish their goal of restricting supply to the point of high profits. Even OPEC, perhaps the most well known cartel, seldom sees a year go by where most of their members actually stick to their assigned quotas.
April 29 2006 10:38 PM EDT
Oh the innocence in that first post...
If it were only that simple...
Oooh, I wanna make a word up: Rast -A post on CB that is not thought out or researched at at all before it is posted. Rash Post.
lol, Bart's was better...
If you guys believe that Lukey is that wrong with what he is saying. Lets put it to a test. Prove that you guys are right, that its alot more complicated.
Sure he missed a few details but overall if everyone does in fact sell at 15 per mil. Then it should:
A. Force USD spenders to spend more
B. Lose alot of those USD spenders.
Either way, it doesnt hurt the game play.
Fact is, The people dictate the economy.
So, for those who say Lukey is wrong. How about you prove him wrong. I challenge every USD sellsman out there to sell there cb2 for a BIN of 15$ with a Min of 13$ per mil.
I guarantee if this is done properly, it will inflate the market. Its just the fact that its very hard to get people to do this.
Rash? Rast? Which one is it? And as bart stated, oligopoly is definitely a word ;)
dont you all get it, hoard your money, starve the market to drive rates up, there is no other way to boost the cbd per usd rate,low ball prices are a result of desperate sellers.
April 30 2006 12:54 AM EDT
I wonder if all the gas companies did this. They all got together and said, "Lets all charge the same high price and make lots of money." The results are the same as Leon said before :
A. Force people to spend more
B. Lose a lot of those people to bike riding and car pools.
exacally, they could easily do this, well, i'm not a buisness man so I don't know if they have contracts or whatnot, haha.
And with that first post, I was really bored and just wanted to start something to see what people would say, I never research or.... think about what i'm going to post, you all should know that by now :D
April 30 2006 9:21 AM EDT
bartjan@zarniwoop:~$ dict oligopoly
1 definition found
From WordNet (r) 2.0 (August 2003) [wn]:
n : (economics) a market in which control over the supply of a
commodity is in the hands of a small number of producers
and each one can influence prices and affect competitors
April 30 2006 10:35 AM EDT
We had this discussion in the past numerous time.
It is all supply and demand even though there are many who refuse to believe this.
Right now, just look at whom the buyers are. A few months ago the main ones were me, DAWG, Freed and Jayuu.
I have stopped buying cb2 for a while, DAWG has a nice store of cb2, Freed has more cb2 then anyone but Central Bank, and Jayuu has his items more than enough upgraded.
With the 4 major USD spenders out of the loop, who is buying all the cb2 that is for sale?
For all those who want to make a cartel, (it has been tried before and each time) someone, somewhere with a NUB character (multi or not) sells for the market price which now is lower than 12 usd per million.
If everyone would sell for 15 usd per million, right now not much Cb2 would be sold.
Just let the market dictate the price, it always has, always will.
April 30 2006 11:09 AM EDT
Not this time bub!
We gotta take a stand, all of us losers who are here for money! We have to do this.... for Bast!
Everyone, together now.. For Bast!!!
April 30 2006 11:48 AM EDT
Did I miss something? How is this doing it for Bast? Hasn't she spent USD before too? Sorry, the Bast thing just sort of came out of the blue on the thread...
April 30 2006 11:53 AM EDT
It's to buy her a new hat.
April 30 2006 11:58 AM EDT
Splendid! A hat cartel! It's about damn time.
April 30 2006 12:12 PM EDT
Man, haha, I think we all need to lighten up a little bit :p
Lets have some fun, it's a game!
April 30 2006 12:22 PM EDT
Jonathan could quite easily stop new players selling characters for an arbitrary amount of time (4 months after NUB finishes, to correspond with NCB maybe)
April 30 2006 12:40 PM EDT
Selling chars is not the problem, NUBs selling their excess cash is (or isn't, depending on your viewpoint ;)
I would like to Thank Pixel_Sage and A Bathing Ape for selling their USD at 13$ per mill.
Please, we need more people to start selling at this rate.
We CAN do this people!!
you guys are doing good but watch now someones going to come along and sell for like $11 mil
I think it will work. At least now the New NUB sellers will see others are selling for a higher price.
Now if Forgers could get away with boosting there rate. One things for sure, we dont make as much as we would fighting.
Here we go again.
Good Luck trying to raise it, as Ranger stated, most of us that frequently buy are all happy with the amount we have or have other means of making it, and would only buy it if the price is right for us. None of the buyers have been trying to dictate the market by not buying. The supply is just heavily out weighing demand. That is why no one has been selling much CB2 lately and the price has been dropping to 10:1. At least, that is how much I pay for it nowadays, since I really don't need any cb2.
May 1 2006 8:08 AM EDT
Maybe the sellers should post in every thread about buying $CB that the going rate is $15/M. Oh wait...
If you sellers are so interested in raising the rates, then put your money where your mouth is and start buying it all up from anyone asking for less than 15 per mil. Problem solved.
May 1 2006 9:03 AM EDT
As Mikel says, if you want to corner the cb2 market, then buy all the cb2 that sells for less than 15 usd and then resell it for 15 usd or more.
To use a quote that was used before (modified for this post):
"Beyond that I have no comment except to say that it's pointless to try to explain supply and demand yet again. It is as simple as black and white, and trying to pretend otherwise just makes you a [G_Beee Edit]"
May 1 2006 9:11 AM EDT
didn't i just have this fight with the same people..c'mon lukey thats so last year...
May 1 2006 10:54 AM EDT
One point I would like to add is that if you want to have control and raise the price, then why $15? Why not 20 or 25?
Your reason will be, "Because $15 is fair and not too much."
My response will be, "Who are you to decide? That is what the market is for."
If you have the power and think you can pull it off, then jack up the price. Way up. If you aren't doing that because you want to be fair, then be fair and let the market decide.
Adam Smith is will be turning in his grave until he realizes this is just a game. *smile*
Or until he realizes that the price hasn't actually moved yet. :)
Haha, woah people, slow down, I'm not trying to cause a big huge uproar.
As I said before, I posted this to start a little talk, I was bored, and.. I know it won't change, in my mind, you are all crazy for spending real money on a dumb little game like this.
haha, anywayyyy :p
Looks like the plan backfired, after this the market became too saturated.
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