Welched on a Bet (in Off-topic)

Syn Kitten May 26 2006 4:15 PM EDT

Ladies and gentlemen of the carnage blender community I would like to shed some light on a bit of stupidity on my part but a huge atrocity committed by one of our fellow blenders. The blender I speak of is Dudley_Dotson. On March 24 he and I made a bet in chat concerning a game of cribbage Edyit and I was to play. The bet was initially was my corn VS his (Dudley's) corn. Dudley bet on Edyit. The bet was made partially in CB chat carnage and concluded in the cribbage chat room, in which Edyit can vouch for the agreement. Edyit lost that game by a long shot (Skunked). Thus the initial bet was my win. Dudley's corn as my prize. Returning to CB chat he offered another bet. My recently won corn (which I never received) against his AG's & his Coi. Once again bouncing between chats it was verified in and out of cb chat and finalized in the cribbage chat. Edyit again can verify. This game was super close and I was victorious by 2 points (thank god for dealer counts last). Thus at this point I am owed a Corn, AG's, and a Coi. Edyit and I having finished out game return to cb chat to see Dudley swearing that Edyit won and he owed me nothing. I won the games thus the prizes are mine. Edyit will post a vouch for his loss against me. I sent Dudley a CM stating that I won and that the items belong to me, and that when he receives the CM I expect said items... to no avial i have neither recieved items nor response. Dudley I have given you the opportunity to do the honest thing and you have not thus. I call you out and expose you for the false, deal breaking, bad gambling self that you are as you have not paid your dues. People of CB take heed when dealing with people such as this. And remember PR post is your best friend. Dudley is not.
(Admins if you feel this is harsh, I will send you chat log, if it is too harsh feel free to fine. this is my feelings on the matter and thus they are stated. Thank you. ) Dudley if you pay up on your debt I will humbley retract above statement merrily, but until then welcome to the flameing...

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] May 26 2006 4:20 PM EDT

Wow that's a really lousy way to gamble.
DD are you going for the sandmontnolti award?

Adminedyit [Superheros] May 26 2006 4:33 PM EDT

"Edyit lost that game by a long shot (Skunked)." ouch :( yes I'll admit to losing both games but you don't have to rub it in that badly :)

QBsutekh137 May 26 2006 4:40 PM EDT

That's twice, novice. You say any variation of that one more time and "Candyman" will RETURN!!!!!!!!!

Genie May 26 2006 5:13 PM EDT

Dudley tries to get out of bets all the time. Dudley's lying to get out of our bet.

No One Make Bets With This Liar.

Hakai [Aye Phelta Thi] May 26 2006 5:42 PM EDT

Dudley, you should be ashamed of yourself. I will remember in the future not to make any transactions with you...

QBPixel Sage May 26 2006 5:53 PM EDT

I have a loan with Dudley right now. This is bad news for me. In the case that he can not fulfill his bets, I am wondering if he will even pay back loans. I have sent him a CM stating that (as agreed in the PR) he must pay me back 300k by the end of Saturday, or I will have no mercy and request for his account to be reset.

Pretty Dotson, I wish you the best of luck that the prize of your bet will be in your hands.

LayWaste-[bA May 26 2006 6:33 PM EDT

Well, if I may shed some light.. You should've made a PR, if you had you would have a corn, AG's, and a CoI sittin on one of your characters, or Dudley would be reset. But you didn't, that's your fault, he doesn't have to pay, as you hopefully know. Dudley isn't doing anything wrong except for being morally.. 'cruel', I suppose.. Get over it though, you made the mistake, not him.

tscm May 26 2006 6:59 PM EDT

You have a point there. ;)

QBPixel Sage May 26 2006 7:15 PM EDT

As I believe someone made in a previous thread burried somewhere, deals can also be made through CMs and are valid through them (since I believe admins have the abilities to read them). I may be wrong at this point, but it is merely something I read in a past thread.

bLaCkaXiuM, I do not believe this is a matter of who made a mistake. The mistake is obviously on Pretty Dotson's part, since Dudley chosing not to fulfill an agreement is a purposeful action. The issue is straightforward - Dudley not fulfilling his part of the deal. If you encourage Pretty Dotson just to simply "Get over it", you're indirectly encouraging Dudley to continuing shaming people.

* I believe Pretty Dotson on this issue, so I am typing with the assumption that Dudley is doing what Pretty has been explaining. If Dudley hasn't, then I'm sorry. Unless Dudley can fully prove his actions valid and correct, I will assume he is not innocent.

A Bathing Ape May 26 2006 9:43 PM EDT

what is this? are you trying to say that a verbal agreement doesnt count? this is like two people placing a bet and when one loses he says "oh, we didn't shake hands; therefore, the bet doesnt count." You made an agreement so you should pay up. Its [dumb] how people try to get the other out of it by saying "you didn't make a pr thread"

AdminShade May 26 2006 9:44 PM EDT

A verbal agreement which is confirmed by a 3rd party = legal imo.

Syn Kitten May 26 2006 10:35 PM EDT

I'd also like to comment, that if Dudley's brother was playing cb, how would he enter Dudley's yahoo account and sit and watch a good part of the cribbage game, as well as involve himself in his own game of cribbage. What next " my little bro is a crib playing champ?" as the Dudley who was in the yahoo chat obviously knew how to play and throw around suggestions.

LayWaste-[bA May 26 2006 10:39 PM EDT

Okay Pixel, well just consider more than you did, since I supposively didn't. If I'm encouraging Dudley to 'shame', make bets, and then not fulfill them, more people by telling Pretty Dotson that what she did was a mistake, which it was, as you said, then that's a pity. Because Pretty Dotson, by making this post, is returning the same courtesy that Dudley had for her.

Xiaz on Hiatus May 26 2006 10:45 PM EDT

Dotson Vs. Dotson. Round 1. Fight!

Syn Kitten May 26 2006 11:26 PM EDT

Dear black if one with such elegant words such as yourself was to read between the lines a bit more. I stated yes i was at fault for not making a PR thread. That this thread was to call him out to do what any moral/non multi/ ethical person would do. Pay up on a bet. As stated in my first posting I DID say i failed to make a pr post. Now going back to shades response that a agreement of words requires three people... Me, Dudley, Edyit. I have that covered. I have the chat that the deals were begun and attempted to finish befor they were moved to the cribbage game chat. The cribbage chats can be vouched for by Edyit as he was there and acknoledged the deal/bet made between Dudley and I. Now Black, if also read the lines this thread is made to warn others of Dudleys failure to pay his debts as well as to ensure such deals would find their way to PR's. So feel free to continue to flame, and state who is wrong and who is right. Shade has taken the situation into his hands which i thank him greatly. Pixel, good luck, hopefully we both are taken care of as we both should be. And to all others who happen to run across this post. Enjoy the witty banter.

_~§ Dot Daughter §~_

Syn Kitten May 26 2006 11:33 PM EDT

_~§Dot Daughter§~_

LayWaste-[bA May 26 2006 11:48 PM EDT

Elegant? Why thank you. My point was only that you neglected to make a PR, which immediately puts you at fault. I believed CB doesn't achknowledge deals outside of PR/CM?, but as Shade has said, apparently deals witnessed by a third party are accepted, so I'm sorry for wasting the space. And although you say that the post was made without any intention to call Dudley out, on any basis other than him paying you, is hard to believe.. Just read over your primary post, it's obvious. But, I am surely done, as Shade has dealt with any problem I had other than that. :)

AdminNightStrike May 27 2006 1:40 AM EDT

Does Dudley even own the items in question?

DD34isback(justkidding) [Severswoed Accounting] May 27 2006 2:10 AM EDT

Wow that's a really lousy way to gamble.
DD are you going for the sandmontnolti award?

--{cb1}novice, May 26 2006 4:20 PM EDT

...Can we choose one person to be called DD i'd rather not have my name be besmirched because someone else that has a name with the same initials didn't own up to a bet :)

I'd also like to state i don't like dudley_dotson as he is a liar and a cheat :P

DD34isback(justkidding) [Severswoed Accounting] May 27 2006 2:14 AM EDT

Does Dudley even own the items in question?

--NightStrike, 1:40 AM EDT

Indeed NightStrike Dudley does own the Corn and AG's which he bought for $45 from Mountain Man and the CoI which he bought for 1.4mil from Blondebabygirl12

BootyGod June 7 2006 3:12 PM EDT

For all who were scammed by dudley making a post in the public record fund. I will then see if the fund can make reparations (sp?). Don't CM me please. I find cming annoying for some reason lately and don't respond very often. Just post in thread or talk to me in chat if you see me.
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