Why? Lets give Econ clans some lovin! (in General)

Why don't econ clans get bonuses like normal fighting clans do?

Such as up to a 15% bonus to their forging and 15% less xfer fees between the clans. And on Sunday, no bonuses like the fighting counterparts.

Of course this would have to be based only on the forging actually done, not the transfers one can see in the income for the week/day/month that econ clans can generate.

This would change every hour just like fighting clans.

cause jon hates pacifist sissy forgers?

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!

i agree what would be so hard about it?

there would be a point to be in an eco clan, anybody who forges just creates one.

based on forging, NW done, i think its a good idea.

:( I've given up on it. How many threads have we had regarding this, how many times has Jonathan shown no interest in changing things? The game is so one-dimensional nowadays. I'm basically getting rid of my debt and leaving the game in a matter of weeks.

It's unrealistic to think anyone's gonna topple the top players at this point unless they have a ridiculous amount of USD to spend, so what motivation is there to fight? Not to mention all your hard work can be wiped out with a single changemonth. There's no consistency, I know it's "carnage" blender but it feels like "random" blender to me.

So I took up forging, and even that's not very profitable, as forging isn't nearly as easy as it was in cb1 (where you could take a 1.5 mil PR character and forge 500-1 mil a day) and actually have a benefit from forging.

Sorry for going a bit off subject, but as stated, Although I like the fact that a highly regarded player like Ranger is now pleading our case, I don't see Jonathan rushing to balance things for the non-fighters.

Think of the balance issues. First, you would have to decide how to mimic the clan points system that fighting clans have. In fighting clans, you get points for attacking other clan members and lose points for getting attacked. In economic clans, how would you implement this sort of give or take system? You obviously cant do it based on the transfers of the clan, because that is way too easy to manipulate. Do it based on the forging amount? Then those people who forge the most will always have the largest bonus, making it even harder for other clans to catch up to them. Also, with forging, how would you make it so that other clans can lower your forging total?

These are just some of the balance issues that would come up if you try to change things. Also, economic clans get 25% cheaper forging already which is quite nice for career forgers.

"This would change every hour just like fighting clans."

Sorry, this just wouldn't work. Maybe daily, but since economic clans revenue is determined solely by when they get money transferred to them, an hourly clan standings just isn't reasonable. Also, we would have to take into account the fact that loaners such as Pixel could create their own clans, and he alone would get the full 15% bonus just because there's so much currency moving back and forth. This is why it can't be based upon forging actually done, because more than just forgers reside in economic clans. Although it has been brought up several (way too many) times, I think economic clans are fine the way they are, which is, an alternative to spending every waking moment fighting to stay in the positive CPs.

agrees ... my nub is up in about a month ... everything i've read says nbc is a money pit to even be halfway good .. i considered forging to raise money .. but that seems a waste due to no real bonus

and a simple way to measure the rewards for economic clans .. battle royal gets its almost perma number 1 score because they fight mostly clan members making it worth while ... just base forging on the number of BA spent at the forge ... doesnt matter if your a nub or nbc or running a normal .. team .. the most active clan (like with fighting atm) gets the bonus



and any thoughts to if i should go nbc forge or rework this team much appreciated via cm (*soz for off topic)

how about... u can mix clans!! one economic clan with a fighting clan, so the fighting clans can get some of the economic clans up :D?... on thing i can think of that might ever possibly work... but then again, that would be stupid... unless maybe... if the economic clans got clan points for fighting, and just had some people who could fight to get the high bonus for them... which raises a point,...would they have their own little top 1 econ clan, if so... some other people (non eco clan) would make an eco clan and snatch up the top bonus for econ clans...

its all so confusing but maybe u guys can make something out of the madness above that i have composed?