Results from ammo testing (in General)


Zoglog[T] [big bucks] November 27 2006 7:54 AM EST

Ok guys I have the first set of results from the base character Rozalin

Standard Bolts:
Fight 1:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 1 / 1 / 159,162

Fight 2:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 2 / 2 / 164,141
Elrond struck deep into Yho [154186]
Yho looks clumsier!
Elrond struck deep into Yho [174096]

Fight 3:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 2 / 2 / 189,954
Elrond struck deep into Yho [224554]
Yho looks clumsier!
Elrond skewered Yho [155355]

5 hits totalling: 867,352
average damage per hit: 173,470.4
biggest hit: 224,554
smallest hit:154,186

Seeker Bolts:
Fight 1:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 2 / 2 / 154,818
Elrond skewered Yho [153786]
Yho looks clumsier!
Elrond skewered Yho [155851]

Fight 2:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 2 / 2 / 189,375
Elrond struck deep into Yho [157529]
Yho looks clumsier!
Elrond skewered Yho [221222]

Fight 3:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 1 / 1 / 198,110

5 hits totalling: 886,496
average damage per hit: 177,299.2
biggest hit: 221,222
smallest hit: 153,786

Slayer Bolts:
Fight 1:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 2 / 2 / 175,686
Elrond struck deep into Yho [188672]
Yho looks clumsier!
Elrond skewered Yho [162701]

Fight 2:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 2 / 2 / 211,731
Elrond struck deep into Yho [180504]
Yho looks clumsier!
Elrond skewered Yho [242958]

Fight 3:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 2 / 2 / 227,755
Elrond skewered Yho [217467]
Yho looks clumsier!
Elrond struck deep into Yho [238043]

6 hits totalling: 1,230,344
average damage per hit: 205,057.33
biggest hit: 242,958
smallest hit: 162,701

Zoglog[T] [big bucks] November 27 2006 7:55 AM EST

Will be a little while before the second set of results as I have a few things to do

Zoglog[T] [big bucks] November 29 2006 1:02 PM EST

Sorry about the delay, the gf has been down for a couple of days but here is the second set of results

Assasin

Standard Bolts:

Fight 1:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 2 / 2 / 174,711
Elrond hit assassin [150537]
assassin looks clumsier!
Elrond skewered assassin [198886]
assassin looks clumsier!

Fight 2:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 2 / 2 / 186,234
Elrond skewered assassin [212516]
assassin looks clumsier!
Elrond struck deep into assassin [159953]
assassin looks clumsier!

Fight 3:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 1 / 1 / 228,791

5 hits totalling:950,681
average damage per hit:190,136.2
biggest hit:228,791
smallest hit:150,537

Slayer Bolts:
Fight 1:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 1 / 1 / 214,787

Fight 2:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 3 / 3 / 177,325
Elrond hit assassin [153586]
assassin looks clumsier!
Elrond struck deep into assassin [173566]
assassin looks clumsier!
Elrond struck deep into assassin [204825]
assassin looks clumsier!

Fight 3:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 3 / 3 / 200,710
Elrond hit assassin [190978]
assassin looks clumsier!
Elrond struck deep into assassin [185496]
assassin looks clumsier!
Elrond struck deep into assassin [225658]
assassin looks clumsier!

7 hits totalling:1,348,892
average damage per hit:192,698.857142
biggest hit:225,658
smallest hit:153,586

Seeker Bolts

Fight 1:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 3 / 3 / 146,532
Elrond shot assassin [139673]
assassin looks clumsier!
Elrond skewered assassin [141402]
assassin looks clumsier!
Elrond skewered assassin [158522]
assassin looks clumsier!

Fight 2:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 3 / 3 / 166,367
Elrond hit assassin [143947]
assassin looks clumsier!
Elrond skewered assassin [152051]
assassin looks clumsier!
Elrond skewered assassin [203105]
assassin looks clumsier!

Fight 3:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 2 / 2 / 152,420
Elrond shot assassin [150794]
assassin looks clumsier!
Elrond struck deep into assassin [154046]
assassin looks clumsier!
8 hits totalling:1,243,537
average damage per hit:155,442.125
biggest hit:203,105
smallest hit:139,673

AdminShade November 29 2006 3:03 PM EST

can we have a summary soon? ;)

Zoglog[T] [big bucks] November 29 2006 3:41 PM EST

It'll be finished tonight, I'm currently completing the single mage test and formatting my findings into html while awaiting to find out what his protection level is then I'll move to a multiple minion team.
Will be difficult to find one of those without any equipment or spells/skills which could affect the figures too much.

Zoglog[T] [big bucks] November 29 2006 4:04 PM EST

Now for the single mage SD Dynasty
This character has a protection effect of 9

Standard Bolts:

Fight 1:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 4 / 4 / 184,923
Elrond shot Ryan Greenspan [180729]
Ryan Greenspan looks clumsier!
Elrond shot Ryan Greenspan [204079]
Elrond struck deep into Ryan Greenspan [176165]
Elrond struck deep into Ryan Greenspan [178722]

Fight 2:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 4 / 4 / 165,847
Elrond hit Ryan Greenspan [132856]
Ryan Greenspan looks clumsier!
Elrond hit Ryan Greenspan [141897]
Elrond hit Ryan Greenspan [177835]
Elrond struck deep into Ryan Greenspan [210803]

Fight 3:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 4 / 4 / 191,309
Elrond hit Ryan Greenspan [218021]
Ryan Greenspan looks clumsier!
Elrond hit Ryan Greenspan [176489]
Elrond skewered Ryan Greenspan [188639]
Elrond skewered Ryan Greenspan [182089]

12 hits totalling: 2,168,316
average damage per hit: 180,693
biggest hit: 218,021
smallest hit: 132,856

Slayer Bolts

Fight 1:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 4 / 4 / 184,862
Elrond hit Ryan Greenspan [203598]
Ryan Greenspan looks clumsier!
Elrond hit Ryan Greenspan [185056]
Elrond struck deep into Ryan Greenspan [182375]
Elrond struck deep into Ryan Greenspan [168422]

Fight 2:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 4 / 4 / 175,097
Elrond shot Ryan Greenspan [195846]
Ryan Greenspan looks clumsier!
Elrond shot Ryan Greenspan [139894]
Elrond skewered Ryan Greenspan [225672]
Elrond struck deep into Ryan Greenspan [138977]

Fight 3:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 4 / 4 / 200,620
Elrond hit Ryan Greenspan [222019]
Ryan Greenspan looks clumsier!
Elrond hit Ryan Greenspan [169002]
Elrond skewered Ryan Greenspan [209056]
Elrond skewered Ryan Greenspan [202405]

12 hits totalling: 2,242,316
average damage per hit: 186,859.66
biggest hit: 225,672
smallest hit: 138,977

Seeker Bolts

Fight 1:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 4 / 4 / 185,004
Elrond hit Ryan Greenspan [166668]
Ryan Greenspan looks clumsier!
Elrond hit Ryan Greenspan [214072]
Elrond struck deep into Ryan Greenspan [187164]
Elrond skewered Ryan Greenspan [172115]

Fight 2:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 4 / 4 / 176,949
Elrond hit Ryan Greenspan [168327]
Ryan Greenspan looks clumsier!
Elrond hit Ryan Greenspan [196688]
Elrond skewered Ryan Greenspan [160312]
Elrond skewered Ryan Greenspan [182469]

Fight 3:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 4 / 4 / 178,822
Elrond hit Ryan Greenspan [166499]
Ryan Greenspan looks clumsier!
Elrond shot Ryan Greenspan [208983]
Elrond skewered Ryan Greenspan [181322]
Elrond skewered Ryan Greenspan [158485]

12 hits totalling: 2,163,100
average damage per hit: 180,258.33
biggest hit: 214,072
smallest hit: 158,485

AdminNightStrike November 29 2006 5:04 PM EST

"Will be difficult to find one of those without any equipment or spells/skills which could affect the figures too much."

Use that guy I used for fireball testing. He had 4 minions with zero AC and zero prot (The JKF has evasion, obviously).

Zoglog[T] [big bucks] November 29 2006 5:14 PM EST

Already found one :)

Saints

This character has a protection effect of 4

Standard Bolts:

Fight 1:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 6 / 6 / 172,965
Elrond shot X Clarke - Hip [173064]
X Clarke - Hip looks clumsier!
Elrond hit X Clarke - Hip [143198]
X Clarke - Hip looks clumsier!
Elrond skewered X Clarke - Hip [173575]
X Clarke - Hip looks clumsier!
Elrond skewered X Clarke - Hip [159426]
X Clarke - Hip looks clumsier!
Elrond struck deep into Koschitzke - Skull [208689]
Koschitzke - Skull looks clumsier!
Elrond skewered Koschitzke - Skull [179843]

Fight 2:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 6 / 6 / 156,699
Elrond shot X Clarke - Hip [162979]
X Clarke - Hip looks clumsier!
Elrond hit X Clarke - Hip [124098]
X Clarke - Hip looks clumsier!
Elrond struck deep into X Clarke - Hip [156943]
X Clarke - Hip looks clumsier!
Elrond skewered X Clarke - Hip [185613]
X Clarke - Hip looks clumsier!
Elrond struck deep into Koschitzke - Skull [152821]
Koschitzke - Skull looks clumsier!
Elrond skewered Koschitzke - Skull [157742]

Fight 3:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 6 / 6 / 172,312
Elrond hit X Clarke - Hip [186292]
X Clarke - Hip looks clumsier!
Elrond hit X Clarke - Hip [155613]
X Clarke - Hip looks clumsier!
Elrond struck deep into X Clarke - Hip [184211]
X Clarke - Hip looks clumsier!
Elrond skewered X Clarke - Hip [155131]
X Clarke - Hip looks clumsier!
Elrond struck deep into Koschitzke - Skull [162636]
Koschitzke - Skull looks clumsier!
Elrond struck deep into Koschitzke - Skull [189989]

18 hits totalling: 3,011,856
average damage per hit: 167,325.33.
biggest hit: 208,689
smallest hit: 124,098

Slayer Bolts

Fight 1:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 6 / 6 / 174,354
Elrond shot X Clarke - Hip [181572]
X Clarke - Hip looks clumsier!
Elrond shot X Clarke - Hip [159439]
X Clarke - Hip looks clumsier!
Elrond struck deep into X Clarke - Hip [186144]
X Clarke - Hip looks clumsier!
Elrond struck deep into X Clarke - Hip [132543]
X Clarke - Hip looks clumsier!
Elrond skewered Koschitzke - Skull [172025]
Koschitzke - Skull looks clumsier!
Elrond skewered Koschitzke - Skull [214403]

Fight 2:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 5 / 5 / 175,741
Elrond shot X Clarke - Hip [142558]
X Clarke - Hip looks clumsier!
Elrond hit X Clarke - Hip [180841]
X Clarke - Hip looks clumsier!
Elrond skewered X Clarke - Hip [190045]
X Clarke - Hip looks clumsier!
Elrond struck deep into Koschitzke - Skull [209469]
Koschitzke - Skull looks clumsier!
Elrond skewered Koschitzke - Skull [155793]

Fight 3:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 6 / 6 / 163,135
Elrond hit X Clarke - Hip [135110]
X Clarke - Hip looks clumsier!
Elrond hit X Clarke - Hip [148665]
X Clarke - Hip looks clumsier!
Elrond skewered X Clarke - Hip [203763]
X Clarke - Hip looks clumsier!
Elrond struck deep into X Clarke - Hip [138994]
X Clarke - Hip looks clumsier!
Elrond struck deep into Koschitzke - Skull [211667]
Koschitzke - Skull looks clumsier!
Elrond struck deep into Koschitzke - Skull [140611]

17 hits totalling: 2,903,639
average damage per hit: 170,802.294(3 decimal places)
biggest hit: 214,403
smallest hit: 132,543

Seeker Bolts

Fight 1:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 8 / 8 / 186,284
Elrond shot R Clarke - Quad [185291]
R Clarke - Quad looks clumsier!
Elrond skewered R Clarke - Quad [182826]
Elrond struck deep into Koschitzke - Skull [206530]
Koschitzke - Skull looks clumsier!
Elrond struck deep into Koschitzke - Skull [168767]
Elrond skewered Koschitzke - Skull [213599]
Elrond struck deep into Hayes - ACL [207602]
Hayes - ACL looks clumsier!
Elrond struck deep into Hayes - ACL [194165]
Elrond struck deep into Hayes - ACL [131498]

Fight 2:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 8 / 8 / 170,244
Elrond hit R Clarke - Quad [148545]
R Clarke - Quad looks clumsier!
Elrond struck deep into R Clarke - Quad [181200]
Elrond skewered R Clarke - Quad [114586]
Elrond struck deep into Koschitzke - Skull [202808]
Koschitzke - Skull looks clumsier!
Elrond skewered Koschitzke - Skull [212731]
Elrond struck deep into Hayes - ACL [137568]
Hayes - ACL looks clumsier!
Elrond struck deep into Hayes - ACL [197840]
Elrond struck deep into Hayes - ACL [166674]

Fight 3:
Ranged Hits / Shots / Avg Damage 8 / 8 / 152,931
Elrond shot R Clarke - Quad [140327]
R Clarke - Quad looks clumsier!
Elrond struck deep into R Clarke - Quad [150923]
Elrond skewered Koschitzke - Skull [152158]
Koschitzke - Skull looks clumsier!
Elrond struck deep into Koschitzke - Skull [168117]
Elrond struck deep into Koschitzke - Skull [132957]
Elrond struck deep into Hayes - ACL [165399]
Hayes - ACL looks clumsier!
Elrond struck deep into Hayes - ACL [130327]
Elrond struck deep into Hayes - ACL [183247]

24 hits totalling: 4,075,672
average damage per hit: 169,819.66
biggest hit: 213,599
smallest hit: 130,327

Zoglog[T] [big bucks] November 29 2006 5:15 PM EST

Will summarize all of this information in the morning using percentage differences.
Should I just add another post here or create another thread with the summarised results for discussion purposes?

AdminNightStrike November 29 2006 7:03 PM EST

Here is fine. That base prot, however, is going to introduce a 4% error margin.

Zoglog[T] [big bucks] November 29 2006 10:31 PM EST

I'm creating a new thread thanks to G_Beee's advice.
Ranger and I decided Prot was acceptable after we had already ruled out ToE, Evasion and exbow. I also decided that facing EC and PL was bad for the experiment.
Prot will affect all values by 4% (if the assumptions are true) so how will that affect the percentage difference of the final average values?
Prot was the lesser of many evils concerning Single Mage and Multiple minion teams involving Mage and Tank.

Miandrital November 29 2006 11:39 PM EST

Just multiply by 1.04 to find the damage without protection.

Zoglog[T] [big bucks] November 29 2006 11:44 PM EST

I would do that but I still question whether or not we actually have any complete proof of that?
Plus 2 of the characters had prot, neither of them particularly high, does it really make that much of a difference for my findings? I don't think it does.
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