Why does the HoC retarget MM and not archery? (in General)

QBSefton [Black Cheetah Bazaar] January 12 2007 5:49 PM EST

Why does the HoC retarget when using MM but not when using archery? What that means is, the extra first round attack when using MM with a HoC , can target two seperate minions if the MM kills the first target.

In the case of archery, no matter what the result, all attacks target the same minion no matter how dead he is, you actually get two battle cries for the same dead minion. Why does the extra attack in the case of archery not perform the same as MM does when used in conjunction with a HoC?

QBsutekh137 January 12 2007 6:01 PM EST

Harder to target a physical weapon than magic? I don't know, if anything, I would rather have MM _not_ retarget (to match archery) than to have Archery retarget to match MM. Physical weapons hit very much way too hard to allow them two-minion kills in one round. I have the largest MM in the game, and the bows up here still hit harder...

QBSefton [Black Cheetah Bazaar] January 12 2007 6:13 PM EST

Yes, because it would be too powerful otherwise is a valid answer and difficult if at all possible to refute. Still it is inconsistent. I prefer consistency.

Flamey January 12 2007 7:09 PM EST

Mages have to suffer -2% DD penalty, that could be a reason.

QBSefton [Black Cheetah Bazaar] January 12 2007 7:19 PM EST

Considering it is the only decent piece of rare headgear that does not carry a UC penalty and does give decent AC, I hope the small -2% DD penalty is not the reason for the inconsistency.

QBsutekh137 January 12 2007 7:54 PM EST

I am all for consistency too, and would be all for MM losing it's mid-round-one retargeting capability, just to clarify my stance. *smile*

GnuUzir January 12 2007 8:40 PM EST

/me jumps on the whine train to...


GnuUzir January 12 2007 8:41 PM EST


This has nothing to do with the 6M ELB I recently acquired ;-P

MissingNo January 12 2007 8:48 PM EST

Honestly, why is it such a big deal? Tanks get everything and the first advantage that mages get over tanks, everyone says it's unfair.

Relic January 12 2007 8:55 PM EST

Please do not misinterpret unfair for inconsistent.

Thraklight Resonance January 12 2007 9:36 PM EST

Have you tested the HoC with archery and seekers and received the same result as with regular arrows? I could see seekers being the same as MM because of that magical seeking element (the magic might know to adjust to the next target even after it is in the air), but not regular arrows.

QBRanger January 12 2007 9:42 PM EST

Jon changed the Helm to retarget with bows also. WOW!

QBsutekh137 January 12 2007 11:19 PM EST

I prefer the alternative, but hey, it's all good.

QBSefton [Black Cheetah Bazaar] January 13 2007 4:13 PM EST

My archery is still targeting the same dead minion first round

QBSefton [Black Cheetah Bazaar] January 13 2007 4:14 PM EST

I take that back, I misread the battle output, it works just fine :)
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