Auctioning DAWG's items (in General)
January 15 2007 9:29 PM EST
I've put 1/3 of DAWG's items into auctions with a starting bid of 10k, no BIN, for 3 days. Then I'll do another 1/3, and so on.
Proceeds will be sold to pay for a new server. I'm tired (and I'm sure you are too) of network-related outages, so I'm going to move CB to a better colocation facility. Instead of shipping the old server, I'm going to install a new one at the new facility, install CB, and then take the old one down. This means CB won't be down while the old machine gets fedexed around, and we'll get a new server with more disks. (When the network isn't down, disk seeking is the current bottleneck. Those of you who have administered databases will understand this. The rest of you can watch this, if you're curious.)
Now I'm going to go see which 20 items got auctioned. ("order by random()" :)
January 15 2007 9:43 PM EST
silly random(), putting most of the high-end items in the first batch...
I cancelled the MH auction; I'll reinstate it after this round, when there's more liquidity. :)
January 15 2007 9:46 PM EST
uh yea, I was about to say 'overkill'. :)
January 15 2007 10:02 PM EST
Since you do not sell CB2, how will the "proceeds" pay for a new server.
January 15 2007 10:05 PM EST
Seems if you want money use FS/WTB. That would allow USD's bid.
January 15 2007 10:05 PM EST
What is going to happen to his tat?
Hi im Jake
January 15 2007 10:07 PM EST
i think he is only using the money from DAWG's auctions to sell for cash
January 15 2007 10:11 PM EST
yeah, but he said he doesn't sell $CB2 for $USD.
January 15 2007 10:12 PM EST
I thought it was clear that in this case I will be selling the CBD for USD.
January 15 2007 10:15 PM EST
Can you tell us if you are going to sell after each round or when all the items are sold?
P.S.I wish there was a paypal in Bulgaria.
January 15 2007 10:16 PM EST
It was semi-clear since in your FORS, you state you will not sell CB for USD.
However, that is why I asked my question.
January 15 2007 10:30 PM EST
Hmm PM has a point, but perhaps this situation is slightly different, as this will probably be a thrice-off and Jon isn't simply 'conjuring' up CB2 cash up for sale, but rather selling existing items as if DAWG himself was selling them/the cash he gets for them.
January 15 2007 10:33 PM EST
I think it's a great idea. Sell off items that were used by a cheater, in order to improve the game for everyone else.
January 15 2007 10:44 PM EST
If it will make everyone happier I'll be glad to just ebay the items directly for USD like I did on occasion in cb1; I thought this way would give the morally-against-USD crowd a chance to bid, as well.
It's okay; by now I'm used to someone's knickers getting bunched no matter what I do...
Hi im Jake
January 15 2007 10:54 PM EST
i would also make sure the chairman cant bid on the stuff high NW items =no good for bidders besides whats the point then
January 15 2007 10:56 PM EST
I think you took what I was typing wrong.
I was trying to clarify that you were going to sell cb2 for usd since I have not seen you do that in the past of cb2. I was not around for most of cb1.
January 15 2007 11:21 PM EST
I'd love an eBay auction, at least for the lots of cash at the end! I might even bend my own USD rule for that, and I spent quite a bit on the last new server auction over on CB1... *smile*
At some point it will come down to USD cash, so eBay seems as good a way as any for that final selling of CB cash.
January 15 2007 11:46 PM EST
ummm... sutekh + tons of cash = new dominator of CB?
January 15 2007 11:57 PM EST
"I think it's a great idea. Sell off items that were used by a cheater, in order to improve the game for everyone else."
I couldn't agree more, that way they give back what they took from non-cheaters :)
January 16 2007 12:03 AM EST
Why give eBay a cut of the funding???? The more Jon brings in the better for all of us, right? With paypal taking small chunks and then eBay taking small chunks, why nickle and dime the big payoff to a little payoff???
January 16 2007 12:26 AM EST
Plus an Ebay auction would make it so the players who don't have a lot of USD have a chance at getting anything
January 16 2007 12:34 AM EST
they're talking about auctioning off the $CB... if u dont have much USD, you're not getting much CBD
Sut has always dominated CB, just didn't bother to actually let us know...
January 16 2007 1:20 AM EST
As much as I'd love to go either way on this, I can't. I'd love to buy the items, however don't have $, as I have my wife to take care of. And I can't buy them in CB2$ either ... so ..... eitherway.
However, it CB likely to outbid every item that goes up ... USD is the best bet, and atleast Jon will get something back for a change. I think the whole USD thing outside of giving some to Jon, one way or another, is total bull**** anyways.
January 16 2007 1:21 AM EST
Incase thats unclear: Jon should get a cut, and this is his chance .. deal with it. Or go start your own buisness that costs you more than you make from it.
Way to announce this after i gave Drac a inexpensive loan. x-|
This is a great idea though, and i think those complaining should just be quiet.
"ummm... sutekh + tons of cash = new dominator of CB? "
I'd have to agree with Novice. Sut has always dominated CB.
January 16 2007 4:49 AM EST
This auction was designed to give sutekh an unfair advantage!
January 16 2007 10:27 AM EST
Heh, the most I would spend would be enough for one more minion (that would be plenty, $300+), and I am not sure that would even get me there...
Last time this sort of thing happened (on CB1), I had pretty much stopped with the USD usage. Then, Jonathan needed a new server and sold lots of cash on eBay. Well, the "charity" nature of it (I mean the quotes, I don't consider this charity, I consider it money well-deserved and VERY well-spent) made several folks really run up the bids. I think I ended up paying $15 per million for one lot, and then getting out-bid on the others. *smile*
Jonathan got the new server and that was the last USD I spent as far as I can recall. There began the making back of cash via forging, until Jonathan announced the birth of CB2 in December of 2004.
A little CB history to start your day! *smile*
Valiek: Incase thats unclear: Jon should get a cut, and this is his chance .. deal with it. Or go start your own business that costs you more than you make from it.
You guys, no one is complaining. PopMan was just clarifying whether Jon changed his mind about selling CB2 for USD. There was a very real contradiction between long standing policy and stated intent in this case. Jon clarified; in addition, general consensus is that although his selling for USD violates the policy in letter, it does not do so in spirit.
January 16 2007 1:38 PM EST
"go start your own business that costs you more than you make from it"
For the record, I don't lose money on CB. (Opportunity cost might be another matter, but that's hard to quantify. :)
You've always not ever been payed in full for your time either Jon, so it's a labor of love if I'm right...
Opportunity costs. The time that Jonathan puts into coding new changes for CB2 prevents him from helping Pitr create another doomsday device. :-)
January 18 2007 10:07 PM EST
I've posted notice of the first round of CBD sales in FS/WTB.
January 18 2007 10:19 PM EST
I'll start the next auctions on Monday.
January 18 2007 10:21 PM EST
Whoops, I was thinking today was Friday for some reason. I'll start the next ones Saturday instead.
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