Junction and Physical Familiars -- something odd (in General)

DreadedTiger [4x20] (-x) February 6 2007 8:57 PM EST

As it stands now, Junction affects the ST/DX stats of both HF and JKF. I'm building my Junction right now (it's only at about .2), and I only have 1/5 if the ST/DX that I should have. That's not how Junction is supposed to work, is it?

DreadedTiger [4x20] (-x) February 6 2007 9:02 PM EST

Typo: "and I only have 1/5 (or 20%) of ST/DX that I should have. In other words, my Junction is affecting the stats of my familiar.

Hyrule Castle February 6 2007 9:10 PM EST

could it be because of the .2?... aka 1/5 or 20%?

DreadedTiger [4x20] (-x) February 6 2007 9:12 PM EST

That's what I was saying.. but WHY does it do that? Junction shouldn't affect the effective stats for a familiar..

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] February 6 2007 9:27 PM EST

that would be a bug, your base stats should be the same, and you should get 1/5 of the bonus...

DreadedTiger [4x20] (-x) February 6 2007 9:37 PM EST

Right, bonuses/penalties..

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] February 7 2007 12:50 AM EST

Junction needs to be 1/5 of the lvl of your tattoo, not DX and STR

DreadedTiger [4x20] (-x) February 7 2007 2:08 AM EST

Not quite in the ballpark, eh Small?

Anyway.. what this comes down to is a bug of some sort, which causes Junction to reduce your ST/DX like it was an item bonus/penalty based on effective Junction level.

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] February 7 2007 3:35 AM EST

yea, i read it wrong, lol

DreadedTiger [4x20] (-x) February 7 2007 7:26 PM EST

Has anyone else even noticed this..?

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] February 7 2007 8:05 PM EST

have YOU (the finder of said bug) cm'ed jon?

DreadedTiger [4x20] (-x) February 7 2007 9:42 PM EST

I took it to the forums in an effort for others to refute me before I did something like that.. but I guess I'll do it now.

Duke February 7 2007 11:07 PM EST

Maybe you should post the stats of your HF before.

QBRanger February 7 2007 11:21 PM EST

Why do you not post the stats with the familiar on the Junction minion and the stats with it on another minion?

DreadedTiger [4x20] (-x) February 8 2007 6:56 AM EST

Here's the stats on my non-Junction character:
Hal 72,770 104,212 104,212 (HF)
Kano-san -9,064 41,691 69,485 (JKF)
Max tattoo: 208,424

Here's the stats on my Junctioned character:
Hal 54,544 55,310 55,310 (HF)
Kano-san -18,421 22,125 36,875 (JKF)
Junction: 12,145/9,955 (0.29)

(For reference: Halidon Familiar trains level/3 as HP, level/2 as ST and level/2 as DX. Jigorokano Familiar trains level/3 as HP, level/5 as ST and level/3 as DX)

The non-Junction character gives full stats to the char, while the other one only gives.. about half now? This is no longer showing a direct relationship to Junction, but that's the only thing I can think of that can be doing this..

(Both tats are well over my max tattoo level.)

DreadedTiger [4x20] (-x) February 8 2007 7:05 AM EST

Typo: Here's the stats on my non-Junction/Junctioned Minion(s)*.. same character.
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