ToA Question. (in General)

Adminedyit February 17 2007 5:21 AM EST

Just out of curiosity. Why can I not use a BoM with a ToA?
If it's because of the ST boost then why can I use a AoM?

TheHatchetman February 17 2007 5:23 AM EST

BoM is a power shield, power shields cant be used with tattoos...

Adminedyit February 17 2007 5:25 AM EST

I know it's a power shield.

Nerevas February 17 2007 6:58 AM EST

ToA+MgS = autowin

Flamey February 17 2007 7:02 AM EST

ToA+AoM=Mega auto win...

the AoM is better and the BoM was a power shield long before amulets were introduced...

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] February 17 2007 7:09 AM EST

MgS is a power shield too, lol. Cant use power shields and tattoos period, dont really know why though, =/

Nerevas February 17 2007 7:14 AM EST

Lets swap your quote around =)

"Why can I not use a CoI with a ToE? If its because of the DD boost then why can I use AGs?"

To limit power. Its simply the way it is, and it works, and it creates balance. I think that pretty much sums things up..

Flamey February 17 2007 7:15 AM EST

CoI is more powerful than AG.

AoM > BoM.

Flamey February 17 2007 7:29 AM EST

and, there are only 2 DD boosting items, compared to 4 ST increasing items, and you can't compare DD with ST as well.

Nerevas February 17 2007 7:45 AM EST

I'm all for game discussion and debates, but really what's the point of this. It is what it is.. Power shields are powerful, and a minion wearing a tattoo can't use them. Everything has a tradeoff.

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] February 17 2007 7:59 AM EST

which is why i suggested cloaks be allowed on Junction minions, =/ DD boosting cloak instead of STR/DX cloak in this case would be good, just me though i guess

QBRanger February 17 2007 8:02 AM EST


The BoM is not too powerful for a ToA tank.


Jon made the power shield category to prevent the MgS and ToA from being used together. In his own words the power shield category was basically "those shields too powerful to use with a ToA". I guess and only guess that he did not want a category of just 1 shield so he put the BoM in that category to keep the MgS from getting lonely.

Flamey February 17 2007 8:04 AM EST

"Power shields are powerful, and a minion wearing a tattoo can't use them. Everything has a tradeoff."

AoM is more powerful, greater than, better than the BoM. It can be used with a ToA.

Nerevas February 17 2007 8:15 AM EST

BoM gives AC- how is AoM more powerful?

At ~9-10mil NW: BoM gives 30% str and 40ac, AoM gives 26% strength and 0 ac. Also BoM has the small favor on the upgrade curve.

Adminedyit February 17 2007 8:17 AM EST

ok i never brought up the MgS and and ToA I understand why thats the way it is. But the BoM I don't get. I know it's the way it is. And I'm not raising a big stink about it. More curious than anything.

QBOddBird February 17 2007 10:48 AM EST

Nerevas - AoM is more powerful because it doesn't have the one-handed limitation. That 30% at 10M NW becomes 10% with a 2hander on a BoM.

Honestly, the BoM isn't too powerful to be used with a tattoo, but like Dr. Popsicle said, I think it is just in there keeping the MgS company.

Zoglog[T] [big bucks] February 17 2007 11:00 AM EST

STR isn't affected by the 2-handed+shield penalty, that's DEX.

QBOddBird February 17 2007 11:08 AM EST

From Item Overview:

"Base AC 10 -1% DX -3% magic. 1% ST for each plus; 1/3 bonus with 2h weapon. PR weight: 0.15."

1/3 the bonus with a 2h weapon. Don't tell me that isn't just pathetic for a 'Power Shield'.

Adminedyit February 17 2007 11:09 AM EST

yeah it is zog
Bonus 1% to ST for each + (1/3 the bonus is used with a 2 handed weapon).
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