Invalid Bid (in General)

Flamey April 24 2007 3:32 AM EDT

" Invalid bid

For security, bids must come after viewing the appropriate auction page. "

This is getting annoying, when I goto an auction page, I goto passed auctions to check up on the values and whatnot and when I hit back, It'll take me to the page where I would insert my bid. After I insert it, I get this, and have to go find it again. Has this been brought up before?

Flamey April 25 2007 1:29 AM EDT


Vaynard [Fees Dirt Cheap] April 25 2007 1:38 AM EDT

I suppose it is a little annoying. But not so much so that it warrants much change.

Besides, there is an easy fix. Just buy the stuff you need, and be happy. Don't worry about buying stuff and reselling it the same day to try and make a meager profit by jacking up the price ;)

Flamey April 25 2007 1:40 AM EDT

hey other people do it, plus its not the same day for me :P I bought it yesterday and am selling it today.

Unappreciated Misnomer April 25 2007 7:12 AM EDT

if you are buying an item keep it and use it or put it in rentals, otherwise someone who you outbid might of actually wanted to use that item, but now to your greed they have to pay more because you won, thats like a slap in the face and a kick i the pants.

QBJohnnywas April 25 2007 8:10 AM EDT

If Flamey won the auction then the person who lost out didn't bid high enough. Did they?!

No rules to say you can't buy stuff simply to sell it on.

Flamey April 25 2007 8:13 AM EDT

don't flame me.

People do this, and they're not exactly trying to be stealthy about it, I've seen people (I won't name people) buy cheap and sell higher, its playing the game well? no? making money?

Besides this thread isn't about me buying and reselling its about an auction error while bidding.

Flamey April 25 2007 8:15 AM EDT

"if you are buying an item keep it and use it or put it in rentals"

I'm sorry that's not being greedy? putting in rentals and making money off it? sure other people use it, but I'm just reselling something, the permanent owner is someone buying and using it.

I'm sorry you can't define one of them as greed and one not greed, they're a lot the same thing, the line isn't drawn between them.

QBJohnnywas April 25 2007 8:51 AM EDT

Maybe this will explain it Flamey laddie boy:

$1,754,550 bid by Flamey (Flamey) on April 24 (autobid)
$1,671,000 bid by Nerevas (Storage Vault) on April 24
$1,511,000 bid by Nerevas (Storage Vault) on April 24
$1,000,000 bid by defender (Lorenzo) on April 23

It's also funny that somebody can accuse you of greed whilst bidding on items they already have three of....

Talion April 25 2007 11:43 AM EDT

Well, without flaming Flamey, I think that Vaynard had the best explanation...

Auctions are easy enough for people bidding on items they actually want to keep. Those that buy items to resell them at a more expensive price, as I do frequently, should have to put in a bit of work in order to do so.

QBJohnnywas April 25 2007 11:56 AM EDT

I'm actually in agreement with Vaynard, I only ever own what is on my char at the time, bar a couple of items. Any money I make goes into the char and building up what is on it. However, that doesn't make what Flamey does wrong, certainly doesn't make it greedy. In fact when done right enables some players to finance their chars at high level in a competitive manner. It's part of playing the game in other words.

Accusations of greed from a player who sells CB$ for USD get right up my nose.

QBRanger April 25 2007 1:53 PM EDT

Gentlemen and Ladies,

Threads are getting off track quicker and quicker these days.

This one only needed 2 replies to get into that area.

Who cares if Flamey is reselling the items he buys? It is part of the game, in the best sense. Buy low, sell high.

If we got on everyones case that bought more then they needed, this game would be over very quickly. There should be a free market in CB and this is a perfect example. There are many players, who I will not name, that use this technique to build their characters as Johnny pointed out.

But... back to Flamey's question:

I suspect Jon wants to prevent using the back button before you bid since perhaps an auction can end before you actually hit that back button. If the program allowed you to bid on that auction by hitting back, when the auction was over, a mess of problems could occur. Or, a different error message would come, or your money would go into limbo.

Only Jon knows the true reason, likely a programming one. I for one use the past auctions a lot before I bid, and really do not mind remembering the values and finding the auction I need.

[RX3]Cotillion April 25 2007 1:55 PM EDT

You could also click your scroll wheel/right click > open new tab for the Past Auctions if you are using FF of course.

Miandrital April 25 2007 2:21 PM EDT

Adding to what ranger said...

The bid must originate from the auction page so that people don't make links that will make you autobid on an item. That security check is not going anywhere for that reason.

Flamey April 25 2007 5:48 PM EDT

thanks guys.

How long has this been there? I've done that since I started, I always checked the market value before I bid, and its only just recently I got that invalid bid.

QBRanger April 25 2007 5:59 PM EDT

Been there from the beginning.

When Jon created heaven and earth.

AdminNightStrike April 25 2007 9:31 PM EDT


Though I agree with you, I thought I'd point out that that security measure is exceedingly easy to circumvent.

AdminJonathan April 26 2007 12:02 AM EDT

I think if you tried circumventing it you would be disappointed. But you are welcome to prove me wrong.

AdminNightStrike April 26 2007 2:32 AM EDT

Sorry, it ain't worth five grand to arm wrestle.

AdminNightStrike April 26 2007 2:34 AM EDT

...unless you were suggesting that I try to find a hole, then tell you about it, thus not getting fined/reset/banned?

Flamey April 26 2007 3:46 AM EDT

I'm pretty sure he meant the latter :)
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