MTL vs PR Increase (in General)
hey guys i need some help from the community see im working on a fumula and a graph for MTL vs PR increase so far i noticed that the pr added by a tattoo decreases as you MTL increase so the higher up are getting a less % of there MTL added to there pr than we do im still working out some stuff but i need data
so if you can help please do i need you the be able to max out your tattoo and then i need this info
PR when you have no tattoo on (rmor and other stuff is fine just unequip your tattoo)
PR After you equip a maxed tattoo
thanks just cm of post info here
April 29 2007 10:46 AM EDT
PR / MPR: 3,688,080 / 2,571,078 with Steeds of the Apocalypse lvl 3,883,164 equipped. I am not at my MTL.
PR / MPR: 3,011,452 / 2,571,078 without it equipped
Max tattoo: 4,966,538
I know it is not a maxed tattoo but hopefully this info may help.
April 29 2007 11:11 AM EDT
Score / PR / MPR: 1,540,036 / 1,211,076 / 843,205
Score / PR / MPR: 1,609,817 / 924,771 / 843,205
Tattoo: lvl 1,394,786
Without tattoo: PR / MPR: 55,976 / 55,039
With tattoo: PR / MPR: 74,961 / 55,039
MTL: Max tattoo: 57,007
April 29 2007 11:19 AM EDT
Make sure you go to the train page before you post the data as that will update your MTL. This goes double for those who have been fighting recently without training.
April 29 2007 11:20 AM EDT
PR with tattoo only: 1,025,102
Max tattoo: 1,107,125
Actually, if you post your info before and after visiting the train page, you can give Drakon more data to work with.
vestax i need Pr before tattoo and pr after
April 29 2007 5:45 PM EDT
You should ask people to train all their available xp as well. Since MTL is based off of VMPR.
also any person with a maxed out tattoo please put your info big or small it doesnt matter and if anyone has a max tattoo as low a possible (note a new charcter with max tattoo of lvl 20 with no mpr doesnt give accurte result they need to have a mpr of some sort)
April 29 2007 6:30 PM EDT
Darkon, I'm sorry you didn't understand, but if I gave you the PR of my team with only the tattoo being equiped, then that same team with the tattoo removed has a PR equal to my MPR.
The PR you are looking for is the same as the MPR I gave you.
April 29 2007 10:42 PM EDT
PR / MPR: 644,628 / 596,635 Max tattoo: 820,964 -no tattoo
PR / MPR: 847,850 / 596,635 Max tattoo: 820,964 - max tattoo on
PR / MPR: 117,484 / 117,106 Max tattoo: 129,010 -no tattoo
PR / MPR: 157,993 / 117,106 Max tattoo: 129,010 -max tattoo on
PR / MPR: 92,096 / 84,915 Max tattoo: 94,573 -no tattoo
PR / MPR: 120,996 / 84,915 Max tattoo: 94,573 -max tattoo on
PR / MPR: 72,922 / 72,754 Max tattoo: 79,116 -no tattoo
PR / MPR: 98,093 / 72,754 Max tattoo: 79,116 -max tattoo on
Do you realize that the more NW related PR you have the less PR further NW adds.
RD - What is the basis for that?
RD- all items are weighted so that the more + they have the more pr it gives based on the exp of the minion wearing it. tattoos however dont grant pr based on exp trained per + or lvl or anything minion based, but tattoos give pr based on MTL which is based on VMPR which is a charcter based attribute so thats why i was trying to find the info for MTL so i can post my findings in the wiki. so i dont know what you thought that was based on but its probly because you minions have different exp train ;)
also guys come on i dont think only like 5 people have maxed out tattoos it doesnt take but five minutes to jot down the info and post it so please do if you tattoo is maxed thanks alot if you can help
DS - RD seems to be saying something else. If you put a tattoo on a naked minion, it will add X PR. If you put the same tattoo on the same minion combined with other pieces of equipment, the tattoo will add Y PR where Y < X.
no i tested that before i even started to see if that would matter thats how i came up with the PR increase based off of MTL what i think he is saying and i think it wrong is
PR increase of an individual item decreases as total PR increases
W/ Tattoo - 932301
- Diff = 31424
W/ Equipment - 1212615
W/ Tattoo and Equipment - 1241828
- Diff = 29213
Sounds like RD is on to something.
FYI, I put equipment on minions 1 and 3, and the tattoo on minion 2. The tattoo definitely added less PR than it did with no equipment anywhere.
May 1 2007 3:36 AM EDT
sounds like this is all confusing.
Before I post useless information because of what NS discovered. Wont you need to know whether tattoo is named or not? or wont that add to the PR or effect of what you're doing?
May 1 2007 3:50 AM EDT
well, yeah, but then you tested it for some data/evidence so that's what I was thinking, I knew it was RD. :)
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