I'm making a lot of money from fighting (in General)


AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] May 18 2007 8:00 PM EDT

My new baby NCB is just over a week old. In that time without buying any BA, I've made about 500-550K CB2.

Not a lot you might think, but this is with a tiny, from 1 MPR character.

I never used to make this sort of money! By the end of my old NCBs I used to make 100K - 150K a day. I'll be making that much a couple of weeks into this bonus period!

QBJohnnywas May 18 2007 8:11 PM EDT

Good innit?

Lumpy Koala May 18 2007 8:15 PM EDT

hehe but did you see the insane price tag of NCB BA ? :P I got bankrupt to even trying to buy just 150 BA per day...

Mikel May 18 2007 8:35 PM EDT

Better save it up for ba later on... Buy BA for 2,543 each

[T]Vestax May 18 2007 9:55 PM EDT

If you plan on buying BA, it would be best to buy it in the first couple of weeks rather then the last. BA is just BA. It's value is actually the same in that it will always to take you x BA to get from 1 MPR to y MPR.

TheHatchetman May 18 2007 9:59 PM EDT

actually, earlier BA is worth more due to getting 100% challenge bonus *every* time :)

[T]Vestax May 19 2007 3:47 AM EDT

Earlier BA isn't worth more then later BA. The fact that one produces a higher amount of cash and xp then the other is irrelevant in this matter.

Let X represent my free BA for today.
Let Y represent the BA I can buy for today.

When determining how much a receive in rewards, Z, it does matter if I spend X before Y or the other way around. However, what does matter is that after spending all that free BA my cost for BA that can be bought might have gone up. Therefore, it is best, for the sake of conserving money, to buy your BA at the beginning of the day when it is in fact cheaper.

This example continues to hold true as you expand the duration from a single day to a span of four months.

AdminG Beee May 19 2007 3:53 AM EDT

I think the point TH was making is that early in an NCB you are likely to be fighting opponents who give you a 100% challenge bonus. Better to be spending BA on a 100% challenge bonus opponent than on a 20% opponent. No?

[T]Vestax May 19 2007 4:23 AM EDT

Nope. I'm apparently doing a bad job of explaining this, but the hopefully when I'm done you'll understand that the challenge bonus doesn't change anything.

Let's say that a NCB can hold up a 100% bonus until about 600k MPR.

Now we could measure the distance from 1 MPR to 600K MPR as an amount of XP, or it could easily be translated into battles. It takes X winning battles to accumulate enough XP to bridge the distance. If you fight these X battles over the course of a month or over a month and a half won't make much of a difference.

As you can see, if the player buys BA early, then it only gets to 600k MPR faster. It in no way extends the time spent in the range where his bonus is larger. It doesn't allow him in any way to continue to receive a 100% bonus after 600k MPR. This is because your bonus is controlled by things that are unrelated to your growth rate. They are controlled by your opponent's scores and by the efficiency of your strategy, which simply just translates back to your opponent's scores.

Therefore, when you decide to invest in BA has a negligible effect on your rewards. It does however effect the total cost you paid to have that additional BA. That being the case, it is best to buy the BA early, when it is cheapest, and that is the only real reason why.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] May 19 2007 4:47 AM EDT

I can't afford to buy *any* BA, but then I'm not dropping as much as I used to, so it's still win/win. :D

QBBast [Hidden Agenda] May 19 2007 5:19 AM EDT


Hmmm ... the thread title is about how you're making money ... but you can't afford to buy BA? What are you doing with your earnings? o.O

*doesn't consider it "making" money 'til the net positive comes _after_ BA buying* ;)

[RX3]Cotillion May 19 2007 7:25 AM EDT

True dat. Word^ Bast.

I hope I can maintain minimal losses when/if I create a NCB, as it scares my greedy/hoarding side when people are talking about losing so much cash. About how much cash would one need to successfully get a NCB up and running (buying BA everyday included)?

QBOddBird May 19 2007 10:37 AM EDT

A lot, if you intend to buy it every day of the NCB. Several, several million. Tens of millions.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] May 19 2007 11:31 AM EDT

No less than 30 mil, ask Mikel or NS. Mikel would be best since he's done it at a number of different levels of bonus.

[RX3]Cotillion May 19 2007 11:37 AM EDT

30 million to start? ... Wouldn't you be making cash during your fighting to kinda balance it out? Jesus... ( does quick calculations ) So it'd take me around 4.5-5 months of forging nonstop to have enough cash to start a NCB? ... Well then skrew that.

QBRanger May 19 2007 11:51 AM EDT

Well the thought behind the NCB is that you should have made enough money in the past by fighting to compensate for the increased BA costs.

However, if one never had a NUB to start, and one played sparingly until now......

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] May 19 2007 12:15 PM EDT

I really shouldn't be any less than what Tezmac or PoisoN have spent on BA in total...

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] May 19 2007 12:52 PM EDT

Bast, I have never bought BA on any of my NCBs. Compared to them, I'm making a hell of a lot of money just by fighting. Espiecally considering this is the first week of a 1MPR character, and I made about 500K. Just from fighting.

As to what I do with the money, but stuff or sell out. ;)

Would you expect a fresh, striaght out the box charcater to make 500K in thier first week?

[T]Vestax May 19 2007 12:58 PM EDT

It hasn't cost me more then 6 million so far. I've bought roughly 85% of all the BA I could have bought. Then again, I'm now heading into the most expensive part.
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