I have a question about RoS (in General)


Drama [Just for fun] May 18 2007 8:33 PM EDT

I don't really understand the explanation in the help, and I asked Ash, but he as the same problem.

Does it mean your rune will stop all the DM effect on your other EO as DM does to ED, and does it also stop the effect on the opponents ED?

Eurynome Bartleby [Bartleby's] May 18 2007 8:36 PM EDT

You know, I think the description of the RoS' Dm effects is rather confusing, and should be reworded. Maybe a little example would help?

I mean, I'm in no way stupid, and I don't quite get it.

TheHatchetman May 18 2007 8:40 PM EDT

it will stop you from dispelling your own EO's, but only under the cap (40% of the tat lvl, i believe), but it wont stop you from dispelling your opponents EDs.

The Rock of Aloneness is definitely a team item :)

Eurynome Bartleby [Bartleby's] May 18 2007 8:44 PM EDT

So you gain a protection against your own DM.

Using AMF while keeping your DM under the Rune's protection will shield the AMF.

Am I right?

Drama [Just for fun] May 18 2007 8:47 PM EDT

Works for EC too?

Eurynome Bartleby [Bartleby's] May 18 2007 8:49 PM EDT

If it works for AMF, it works for EC, they are both Enchant Offense spells.

Tyriel [123456789] May 18 2007 8:50 PM EDT

RoS protects your AMF and EC from an amount of your own DM equal to 25% of its level.

It also protects your EDs from enemy DM at that same rate.

Eurynome Bartleby [Bartleby's] May 18 2007 8:51 PM EDT

Now you see, that is what should be added to the RoS' description.

Eurynome Bartleby [Bartleby's] May 18 2007 8:54 PM EDT

With your permission, I'd like to add it to the wiki as soon as I get to the time to.

Nerevas May 18 2007 9:54 PM EDT

Normally, if YOU use Dispel Magic, any OTHER enchant offense spells you use will be dispelled by your own dispel. In that same situation, RoS will protect your other EO's from your own dispel (up to the amount of dispel protection the RoS provides) so that you can effectively use multiple EO's.

So if you had a 40k Dispel Magic and a 40k Ethereal Chains without RoS. Dispel would cast for 36k (its 80% effective) and ethereal chains would only cast for 4k. If you had a high enough RoS with 40k+ effective dispel protection, both spells would cast at their full strength of 36k and 40k.

QBRanger May 19 2007 6:24 AM EDT

Ash,

It is a wiki, no permission needed to add stuff to it.

Here is another explanation.

The ROS protects vs 25% of its level vs DM.

Enemies DM will dispel your ED spells-GS, Haste, Protection, AS, VA, and GA.

Your own DM will dispel your EO spells-AMF and EC.

So, let us say you have a 1M ROS. This will protect vs 250k of DM. This is DM effect, the number in (xx), which is 80% of the effective level (learned +/- item effects). The DM protected against is both your DM and your opponents DM.

So if you have a 1.5M AS and someone casts a 500k DM on you, you will only cast your AS at 1.25M since your ROS will only protect vs 250k of their DM.

Now if you use DM with AMF/EC, you should only have a DM as large as 250k in this example since anymore will start to effect your own AMF and EC. Your own DM will NOT effect your own ED spells however.

Eurynome Bartleby [Bartleby's] May 19 2007 1:25 PM EDT

Lol, I was not asking for the permission to change the wiki, but to use Tyriel's description in it :)

Now I get four totally better ones, and I don't know which to use.

Eurynome Bartleby [Bartleby's] May 19 2007 1:37 PM EDT

*By better, I meant better that the one in the wiki, not Tyriel's.

QBRanger May 19 2007 1:58 PM EDT

I would think that anyone who posts in a thread like this implicitly gives their permission.

At least I certainly do.

Zoglog[T] [big bucks] May 19 2007 2:20 PM EDT

I'd go with Tyriel's, to me it looks like the one a new player would understand best.

Eurynome Bartleby [Bartleby's] May 19 2007 2:26 PM EDT

What I did is couple some parts throughout the thread to make the modifications, so now I think it's pretty clear.
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