Question about AH Autobidding (in General)


AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] May 25 2007 10:27 AM EDT

I put an autobid down on a pair of BG in the AH, Ranger already had an autobid down on them.

I put my max at 500K, but Ranger is currently winning with his autobid at 500K.

"$500,000 bid by QBRanger (Koyaanisqatsi) on May 24 5:16 PM EDT (autobid)
$500,000 (max bid: 500,000) bid by QBGentlemanLoser (Unicorn of Purity) on 10:23 AM EDT"

Shouldn't his bid be higher than mine to beat me? (Not that I'm going to beat his bid, but it's interesting to see how two autobids work head to head)

It shouldn't matter that he place his autobid before mie, should it? If I can go to 500K (the max of my bid) to beat me shouldn't he have to spend the next higher increment?

AdminNightStrike May 25 2007 10:27 AM EDT

Whoever bid first wins a tie bid.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] May 25 2007 10:28 AM EDT

How does he get to tie with me?

I bid 500K. That should be the end of it unless Ranger is willing (as the autobid shows) to go higher.

TheHatchetman May 25 2007 10:31 AM EDT

if he had already bid 500k, should your newer offer of 500k take priority? It is your responsibility as the later bidder to beat his bid, not the other way around ;)

bartjan May 25 2007 10:31 AM EDT

I bet Ranger's bid is 500k

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] May 25 2007 10:33 AM EDT

Eh? That makes no sense.

For example, say there were 50K increments, and the current bid was 300K.

I put a max down of 500K, and therefore bid 350K.

What you're saying is that the system actually says Ranger would have bid that 350K so you lose.

Surely I get the 350K bid and then Rangers auto bid increases that to 400K?

AdminNightStrike May 25 2007 10:35 AM EDT

If Ranger's max bid was 500k, and you outbid some lower bid with a max of 500k, then Ranger wins. So if the auction starts at $1, and ranger bids 500k, it will show, say, $10 as the next increment. If you bid 500k, your bids will compete until the highest max bidder wins out. In this case, it was a tie, so whoever bid first wins.

QBRanger May 25 2007 10:41 AM EDT

My max bid was 500k.

AdminG Beee May 25 2007 10:44 AM EDT

GL, haven't you realised. CB is designed to give Ranger an unfair advantage ;)

QBRanger May 25 2007 1:05 PM EDT

and all my posts are designed to keep it that wa.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] May 25 2007 3:38 PM EDT

No Wai!

;)

LoL!

It was just a lucky coincidence I was bidding against Ranger. This wasn't another "have a pop at the big guy" thread.

But, in my defense, the auto bidding was described as 'ebay' style bidding, and I've checked with Claire (who's a veteran ebayer) and ebay auto bidding goes by next increments, not it seems the way CB does it.

;)

AdminG Beee May 25 2007 3:49 PM EDT

Don't get Bart started on "'ebay' style bidding" again, please... :)

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] May 25 2007 3:52 PM EDT

Must have missed the original G. ;)

Bart, a quick re cap? :P

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] May 25 2007 3:59 PM EDT

It's not a matter of increments, Ranger had previously set a max bid of 500k, you bid the same amount and therefore your bid was rejected.

[MG]Mecca-Devilbot [Clan of One] May 25 2007 4:17 PM EDT

The bidding system is slightly flawed, currently.

If i have a 400k bid on an item, and the current 'next' bid is like, 401k (an increment of ~ 10k), i'll get outbid. Even though i bid 400k, and at a 10k increment the next bid should be 410k, 401k will beat me.

There's just no provision for really close bidding.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] May 25 2007 4:18 PM EDT

"It's not a matter of increments, Ranger had previously set a max bid of 500k, you bid the same amount and therefore your bid was rejected."

Not to open a can of worms, but Ebay bidding doesn't work like that. ;)

QBRanger May 25 2007 4:24 PM EDT

Ok,

Does anyone remember FS threads that got changed due to use moaning about it?

This style of autobidding works 99% of the time. Let us not make Jon go back to the old method where you had to be on to win most auctions.

bartjan May 25 2007 4:34 PM EDT

If you bid the same amount as an earlier bidder in eBay, your bid also gets "rejected", so what's the difference between eBay and CB in this case?

For example, if current bid is $100k (with a hidden max. of 500k) and you also bid $500k, then the end result is that that earlier bidder is leading with the $500k bid.

Adminedyit May 25 2007 4:39 PM EDT

pretty simple really, lets say i bid first on an item at 2m for my max bid, next day you place a bid of 2m as your max bid. Since we tied it takes the first bid of 2m as the winner. Granted that may not be how it works on Ebay, but hey this is CB with Ebay "like" bidding, and it's still a lot better system than what it used to be IMO :-)

bartjan May 25 2007 4:46 PM EDT

As far as I know that's exactly how it works in eBay as well...
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