Help my Strat (in General)

Well, NS asked me to post my home page, thought I'd just start a new thread and not clog up the other one.

*Any* Suggestions are welcome. Please before you suggest anything look at the folks around me and/or farming me, think you can help me beat anyone else?

Clan teams that I've looked at already are "I Win" (Logan's char), "St. Fire" (Dudemus' char), "The Space Knights" (Horseguy's char).

First off that TsA isn't helping you in any way with the AS hp that you get... it only helps with the trained HP... you would be able to kill so many more chars if you changed to a ToA tank and used a ranged weapon to help take care of the other chars around you... build up that EC a bit more and you might be able to take care of a lot of non-toa tanks around you as well.

The biggest thing to worry about is any DM teams that might make mince meat out of your AS... but I usually get full use of my AS most of the time and its about the same level as yours without the RoS.

Try using a ranged in your team and you might do a little better...

I think you should just focus on either training AMF or EC and not both. That way, you will be strong against at least either tank or mage. Do you really need the VA? I suggest untrain it and up your evasion or EC.

Also, what's with all those leathers? ;p

Draco, I'd have to redo my whole strat if I was to switch to ToA. Without the RoS my team is basically useless. The TSA was always there for the ST, never for DD resistance or HP Regen.

It's expensive to own a ranged weapon that does decent damage or even hits. It'd have to be worthwhile for me to lose my 1st round of melee as well, I could go 5 rounds without touching them if I use a Ranged weapon and miss.

Kong, with mages the thing that kills me is their evasion, I don't think putting all AMF on my team will do much. EC is there because I had nothing else to put. Yes, VA is there for a good reason, I win more with it. During the last free re-train I tried all these things on that minion, with just Evasion or EC or changing the levels, when I removed VA It didn't work, though, that was when I had a VB. I don't know if retraining all my VA (Which I've been spending heaps of time on) would be worth it and then I'd have to think what to put it in.

The leathers were on my enchanters, but I removed them recently because of PR issues.

Since you have tried everything, then why ask us now? ;)

why would you have to redo your entire strat... I do just fine with AS I just usually avoid the bigger DM teams anyways... but if you get high enough the higher you go the bigger the DM are and the more the AS is moot even with RoS.

With a ToA and a 1k X Elbow you will do around 500k damage a hit... with the ToA backing it up it will allow hits almost no matter what... there are only about 7 Evasion big enough to stop a +100 elb with a huge ToA like your tat backing it up.

It would be simple to untrain the Dex and Str on your tank and train all HP instead... and then all you need to do is put the ToA there... the AS would still be big enough to help out against all teams except some teams that beat you already....

Evasion, EC, and VA are all stats that need to be trained pretty heavy to be of any use... and to have all three on the same minion you have to spread it out way too much so none of the stats are making a huge impact to you.

This post may or may not help you but these are some ideas on what you can do.

This is the third biggest DM in the Game: Nuclear Holocaust cast Dispel Magic on all enemy Minions (1,444,014)
This is what level my AS is: Ablative Shield: 1,502,308/1,310,000 (751,164)
And this is what I cast at after the DM negates most of my AS: Bruenor cast Ablative Shield on all friendly Minions (21177)

and this is how many rounds it takes me to kill him: Vlad Tepes defeated The End of Days after 8 rounds of combat.

And this is even with a decent sized GA that gives me about 200k damage back a hit.

You do the math

I don't want to change my entire strat into a generic strat that I believe will get nerfed. Ranged, Archery or ToA will be nerfed sometime soon, at least one of them.

Why use a BoM with a 2H weapon? You equip a bunch of +DX equipment, then totally hose those bonuses with the shield + weapon. Why not unequip the BoM, to gain a bunch of DX, then use Tulka's instead of the EG? This will give you your STR back but increase DX at the same time. If you want the AC, this may free you up to equip a better AC armor than the TsA.

Some AoFs for the two enhanters w/o one would provide some extra offense (w/ GA) as well.

With only one source of damage, you may want to enhance the GA to make it a bigger offensive weapon. You can do this by moving the AMF to the VA enchanter, and pouring more xp into GA. If you don't want a minion w/ just GA, you can put some into evasion as well. If you move this minion into the #3 slot, chances are good that you will be able to take advantage of the ranged round evasion bonus with it.

I had the BoM there because I just recently got my MH. I'd rather not use TG as I want the DX, the ST isn't important, most of the time its me missing not hitting hard enough.

AoFs are expensive now, I didn't think I need them back then, and they still cost quite a bit of money. Only reason I used one is for the evasion and partly because it was a supporter item.

Since you are using a RoS, I'd sure as heck add a DM to Fountain of Life. Both Fountain and Counter-attack could use an AoF; remember the AoF boosts any AS cast on that character. Give Annhiliator a mage shield instead of a BoM. You would also benefit from some big DBs on your tank and elven gear on your evasion wall. You may also want to play with your Evasion/EC ratio and your AMF/GA ratio, though they look good to me.

Well, I've got a bit of a problem, I'm about 11 mil in debt after I make this payment.

I know that elven gear would help on the evasion enchanter, I just don't have money to afford all of it, costs quite a bit with no external funds + buying all BA.

I would like to equip a MgS, but they cost a lot.

rentals are always an option till you can afford one :)

I equipped a MgS (rentals) I don't think it helps with anything as far as I can see.

How big a MgS?

Miteke is 100% correct in his post.

The ROS has 3 benefitis.

First is the boost to the ED spell which you are using well.

Second is the protection vs enemies DM, which you get automatically.

Third is the protection from your own DM, which you are not using. You ROS will protect 25% of its level from DM. So you can have about a 450k DM on Fountain of Life. That will effectively dispel any protections cast on your enemies and lower their GA/HP a bit. Perhaps enough to change the tide of a few battles.

I personally believe Bloodlust is a wasted skill now. EIther use archer and get a MSB or use evasion. But for only 100k levels 60% more damage may be more beneficial to you.

Try to get an AOF for the other 2 enchanters--> more hp, more GA damage.

Yes, you guys are right. Using an RoS without DM/EO on your own char is like using a ToA for the defensive DX and ST-damage-reduction, but with no physical weapon.

If you're a ROS team, then be a ROS team.

The first thing I would do is see what you actually need to maintain you're current point. This is literally what I always do every time I want to add another player to my fight list. I strip myself down as bare as I can so I know what equipment is optional. Let's say, for instance, that you find that your fight list remains unchanged when you remove body armor, power shield, and cloak from one minion and your tattoo from another (just an example). If your fight list doesn't change, then you could feasibly drop an RoE on that minion. Make sense?

It's a contrived example to illustrate a point. See where you CAN change without disturbing your current fight list. I think, for instance, that you could probably drop the AoI on your tank and not lose any opponents. Then you can change it to something that may be more useful, like an AoM.


Once you can determine that, I would then ask you what type of char are you trying to kill? Start with Mage or Tank team, then break it down from there. Answer that, and then it's much easier to tweak your strat to grab one omre opponent. Once you add one person, lather rinse and repeat.

That was how I got as high as I did. It may not be the best way to do things, but it worked for me. I basically "saved" my current setup, determined what I needed to add to beat one person, and climbed the ladder one guy at a time.

Most recently, I'm targetting Failure, and I currently get about 75% wins against him. After I get a little more DX in me, I'll have him at 100% and he'll be on the list. The Alchemist is next :)

I'll start training that DM, thanks.

Evasion would be a choice if I had more xp, or if I was a ToA Tank, but I don't and as you said 100k evasion isn't very much.

I'm pretty sure the AoI is necessary, I would move it to the back if it didn't AoI, but then I think MM would eat it up.

I wanted to be balanced, but the teams I'm seeing above me are tank teams. There's one mage team I want to beat, who I am focusing on now. I'm just training GA and EC for now, so it would help, and more natural HP on my tank.

Vistek owns me before melee, so my only hope is to GA him before he kills me.

Space Knights has an exbow and annihilates my ST, so I'm pretty much screwed there.

I Win beats me because he is a ToA tank with an ELB as well as a MH which are both decently sized.

NS, with the Item removing thing, how do you what you're removing is somewhat helping you in defeating an opponent? Say If I took off my corns and all I needed to beat someone was a little more HP + GA (that is with the corns on) but I've put myself back quite a bit because I've unequipped things. Do you regularly put all your gear on to see if you can beat someone, or what?

On Sundays, I beef up my gear to see if I can reach higher. Once I find how how I can reach, then I cut back until I'm at the bare minimum gear-wise. If I remove something and I can still win against people, then it stays off. Using this method keeps my PR low enough for me to still get challenge bonuses even at 6/10. I also find that borderline pieces of equipment are good candidates for insta-downing, allowing you to pour that cash into another piece of equipment that could be insta-upped.

One other note -- name all of your equipment. It's free PR-wise, so go for it.

Costs quite a bit. I don't think I need to particularly name anything except for my weapon + tat.

When the next point on an item costs 1.5m and you can get a naming for less than half that.... it's worth it.

Hehe, found it and its still not closed.

Thanks to all those who suggested DM, I've started training DM and thus far I've added 3 opponents, 2 of whom I was beating and then they started beating me.

NS, I haven't upgraded that far. Just thought I wouldn't leave things unanswered or ignored :P