T5: Combo (in Contests)


Admin{CB1}Slayer333 July 19 2007 1:22 PM EDT

T5 will be a special win condition tournament.

Win Conditions
In order to win, players must obtain certain combinations of rankings on the stats - > characters - > standings/atrributes page. For example, highest MPR, most battles won, and richest character could be a combo. Each combo will have a prize associated with it.

General Combo hints:
Combo's will be at most, 3 conditions long.

There are 20 combo's, but only three players will win prizes. Combo's will have a "ranking" in which certain combo's will be worth more than others. This ranking will be used to determine who wins a prize.

Combo's will only involve the top of each standing (IE: having the 2nd largest decay will not do anything in a combo, but having the 1st might.)

You may not win more than one combo, if you have more than one, the one worth the most will take precedence. The other will be essentially "thrown out" in that nobody else will be able to win it.

There will be five 3-condition combos, eight 2-condition combo's, and 7 1-condition (obviously these will be worth less, but are a fallback in the event that not enough people actually score other combos) In addition, multi-condition combo's will "build" off of single condition, and 2-condition.

The single condition's are
1) Highest win streak
2) Highest score
3) Most battles challenged
4) Highest PR
5) Highest MPR
6) Net Worth
7) Richest

2-Condition combos (in no particular order)

Most Powerful Blow + Highest EO
Highest Win streak + Highest DD
Highest Score + Highest Archery or Bloodlust
Highest PR + ST
Highest NW + Richest
Highest MPR + DX
Most Battles Challenged + HP
Strongest single minion(MPR wise) + Highest Evasion or UC

3-condition combos, 2 others are secret. In no particular order:

NW + Richest + Must have at least 1.5m NW
MPB + EO, EO must be AMF
Strongest Single Minion + Eva/UC, must be UC



Tournament Rules:

As always, these rules apply.

Decay may be trained.

There will be 160 starting BA.

There will no BA cap.

The tournament will start 6 hours after T4 ends, on July 23, 12:00 AM, and will last until July 30, 12:00 AM.



Prizes:

They are (in no particular order)

100k-900k (going up in 100k intervals)
A Tattoo of Augmentation lvl 31,602
A Steel Familiar lvl 147,890
A Tattoo of Augmentation lvl 433,426
A Blacksword of Nan Elmoth [92x7](+6)
A Tattoo of Endurance lvl 691,624
A Trollskin Armor (+20)
A Mage Shield (+15)
A Trendy Tribal Tattoo (ToA) lvl 1,464,361
A Jigorokano Familiar lvl 15,913
A Tattoo of Augmentation lvl 31,602
A Rune of Solitude lvl 27,016


Many of the items come with smaller cash prizes as well.

48Zach July 19 2007 1:32 PM EDT

"Combo's will only involve the top 5 of each standing (IE: having the 6th biggest decay will not do anything in a combo, but having the 5th might.)"

Decay is displayed on the Characters > Attributes page along with all the other spells/skills.. So, if the combo's are from the Standing page, how will having the 5th highest Decay affect if you win or not?

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 July 19 2007 1:33 PM EDT

whoops, attributes page will have combo's as well, updated post

dj1914 July 19 2007 1:36 PM EDT

This one sounds interesting.

48Zach July 19 2007 1:37 PM EDT

So, out of all the spells/skills and standings page.. there is only 10 combinations of 3? Or only 10 combination's of 3 availible for you to win off of.. If there is only 10 we can win off of, as I beleive there is probably many more.. Shouldn't we be able to know what these combinations are?

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 July 19 2007 1:41 PM EDT

There are 20 total combinations that are worth prizes - I will post some of the "lower" priority conditions once I've created the entire list.

There will be five 3-condition combos, eight 2-condition combo's, and 7 1-condition (obviously these will be worth less, but are a fallback in the event that not enough people actually score other combos) In addition, multi-condition combo's will "build" off of single condition, and 2-condition. So knowing the "base" conditions will give you a good guess as to what the combo's will be.

dj1914 July 19 2007 3:04 PM EDT

3) Most battles challenged
There will be a BA cap of 4000.

Will the winner of this be the FIRST to reach the BA CAP or will it end of being unlimited BA?

ScY July 19 2007 3:33 PM EDT

/me likes Combos with a coke

if you don't get it, don't worry ;)

noneedforthese July 19 2007 3:50 PM EDT

The prizes are darned sweet ;) wish I had the time to play...

dj1914 July 19 2007 4:05 PM EDT

Am guessing Tattoos ARE allowed in this tourney as T4 stated they were not allowed?

Fanta [Fanta's Forge] July 19 2007 5:07 PM EDT

Woah that's a nice ToA you're giving away.

Synge [Memento Mori] July 19 2007 6:49 PM EDT

Are the combos only scored at the end of the tournament? (i.e. it does no good to get the highest rating in any category before then)

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 July 19 2007 6:56 PM EDT

tats are allowed, it will be scored at the end of the tourney, BA will be changed to unlimited

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] July 20 2007 7:01 AM EDT

Must reserve the name "C-C-C-Combo Breaker!!!" for this tourny! :P

Miandrital July 23 2007 12:22 AM EDT

Slay, the tourney started with only 160 BA, so I thought you should update the post.

Super J July 23 2007 1:00 AM EDT

yeah I only got 160ba to start as well

dj1914 July 23 2007 1:38 PM EDT

When will the 2 and 3 combos officially be posted? Near the end of tourney?

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 July 23 2007 3:21 PM EDT

I'll post the 2-condition combos on wednesday, then on thursday I'll post the 3-condition combos that build off of those, the combos that do not build will be "secret" combos (carrying the biggest prizes)

Kong Ming July 24 2007 7:56 AM EDT

Don't know whether this is a bug. I managed to sell a base lesser tattoo from my tourney character and then rebuy it from the store. I thought it was disallowed?

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] July 24 2007 10:08 AM EDT

As long as it's not above a certain NW, you can still sell to the store.

dj1914 July 24 2007 10:17 AM EDT

20,000 NW if the cut off point?

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 July 24 2007 10:20 AM EDT

20k is right.

Rubberduck[T] [Hell Blenders] July 24 2007 11:25 AM EDT

I imagine doing so could be deemed money laundering and punishable.

Kong Ming July 25 2007 5:21 AM EDT

So is it legal to sell the tattoos from a tourney character and then buy back using our normal character?

Lumpy Koala July 25 2007 6:06 AM EDT

What about selling item to store and buy it back by main char?

--Nonsensical Knight, July 5 2:52 AM EDT

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That would only work for low level items. "Rares" can only be auctioned by the tourney char.

--Adminbartjan, July 5 3:15 AM EDT

I don't know how much the "Rares" would encompass....

Kong Ming July 25 2007 6:43 AM EDT

I would assume lesser tats are not considered as "rares".

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 July 25 2007 8:26 AM EDT

I think the purpose of allowing players to sell back low items is to clear out inventories for tanks who are constantly switching to new weapons. So no, "transferring" items using stores is not allowed.

Kong Ming July 25 2007 8:47 AM EDT

ok, I'll sell the tattoos to the store for 'lucky' cb-ers to pick up :)

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 July 25 2007 6:34 PM EDT

2-condition combos (in no particular order)

Most Powerful Blow + Highest EO
Highest Win streak + Highest DD
Highest Score + Highest Archery or Bloodlust
Highest PR + ST
Highest NW + Richest
Highest MPR + DX
Most Battles Challenged + HP
Strongest single minion(MPR wise) + Highest Evasion or UC

dj1914 July 25 2007 6:41 PM EDT

2-condition combos (in no particular order)

Most Powerful Blow + Highest EO
Highest Win streak + Highest DD
Highest Score + Highest Archery or Bloodlust
Highest PR + ST
Highest NW + Richest
Highest MPR + DX
Most Battles Challenged + HP
Strongest single minion + Highest Evasion or UC


So are these added together to get 1 total or does one have to have highest NW and be the richest?

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 July 25 2007 6:42 PM EDT

To score one of these combos you must hold both conditions (so you would have to be the richest, and have the most NW.

Miandrital July 26 2007 9:11 AM EDT

Is there any chance I can get back in to this tournament via a unretire?

bartjan July 26 2007 9:22 AM EDT

We're only mortal, so unretiring a tournament character is not something we can do.

48Zach July 26 2007 9:27 AM EDT

You will receive the option for unretiring it, but I don't know if it is allowed.

[Nkki]WildEagle [SNB Forging Services] July 26 2007 10:00 AM EDT

unretiring a tourney char doesn't work ;) the link is there, but nothing will happen if you click on it

bartjan July 26 2007 10:17 AM EDT

For admins, the option to unretire is grayed out if it's a tournament character.

Miandrital July 26 2007 1:44 PM EDT

Darn. Especially with all the good prizes this tourney, I thought I might have actually had a chance to win something.

dj1914 July 26 2007 7:13 PM EDT

Are the 3 condition combos coming today? Also will the conditions and prized be matched up this weekend?

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 July 26 2007 7:42 PM EDT

3 - condition will come later today, what I'll do for the prizes is this:

If you win (for example) the 5th best combo, and this is the highest combo scored (so you would be 1st place), then you can choose any prize from that combo down (prizes will be matched up after the tourney ends), after you choose, whoever scored the next highest combo can choose from that combo down, ect.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 July 26 2007 8:15 PM EDT

3-condition combos, 2 others are secret. In no particular order:

NW + Richest + Must have at least 1.5m NW
MPB + EO, EO must be AMF
Strongest Single Minion + Eva/UC, must be UC

lostling July 27 2007 2:34 AM EDT

i guess its safe to assume that all 3 combos are worth more then all 2 combos and so forth?

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 July 27 2007 7:20 AM EDT

yep

miteke [Superheros] July 27 2007 9:20 AM EDT

I don't particularly like the combos chosen. Most of them favor the highest PR team with archery as in...

Highest win streak, Most Powerful Blow, Highest Score, Highest PR, Highest NW, richest, Highest MPR, Highest ST, Highest DX, and Highest Archery

Archery is by far the easiest way for a new team to kick butt, so an inordinate number of teams chose that route for the tourney. Then to add insult to injury it seams the combos are also based around that strat.

How about some combos that bless other strats like highest Evasion + highest DD, highest HP + highest PL, highest total DEs + highest total OEs, and some others that will go to other teams than the same top archery teams. I do note that a few are tailored to SMDD teams such as Highest DD, Highest HP, Highest Evasion, but I feel like any DD 4 minion team has no chance at anything at this point.

Flamey July 27 2007 9:35 AM EDT

If an Archer team got richest, well they wouldn't be doing too great, as they're not upgrading their bow. I believe "richest" is more for the mage teams, no?

Rubberduck[T] [Hell Blenders] July 27 2007 11:31 AM EDT

I don't agree Miteke. I don't think streak, PR, MPR, NW, and richest favour archers in this tourny. Yes archery is very good for getting 100% targets at this level but is also quite vulnerable to other T chars dragging your score down and making you continually find new targets. Decay is an even easier route to 100% challenge bonus, I'm surprised no one has taken good advantage of it yet.

Rubberduck[T] [Hell Blenders] July 27 2007 11:39 AM EDT

Also Miteke the way to play a Tourny like this is to not worry about the combos from the strat, just use a strat that gets you 100% challenge bonus. With the small retrain penalties now the strat you use throughout the tourny doesn't have to bear any resemblance to what you end up trying to combo with.

miteke [Superheros] July 27 2007 11:54 AM EDT

But I still say that many of the combos favor the tanks as you can see below...

Most Powerful Blow + Highest EO - MPB is irrelevant for mage teams. blatant tank combo
Highest Score + Highest Archery or Bloodlust, Blatant tank combo
Highest PR + ST - blatant tank combo
Highest MPR + DX - blatant tank combo
MPB + EO, EO must be AMF - blatant tank combo

There is only one blatant mage combo.
Highest Win streak + Highest DD

But, yea, I realize the retrain thing kind of makes the combos based of retrainable stats kind of silly. It really comes down to who uses the fastest growing strat, then a scramble at the end to retrain into a niche that nets you the best combo. I think it would be interesting to have a tourney where retraining is not allowed.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 July 30 2007 12:44 PM EDT

The Results:

Combos

1) Highest win streak - 100k
2) Highest score - 200k
3) Most battles challenged - 300k
4) Highest PR - 400k
5) Highest MPR - 500k
6) Net Worth - 600k
7) Richest - 700k

8) Win streak + Highest DD -800k (Won by Draco)
9) Score + BL or Archery - 900k
10) Battles Challenged + HP - 400k + A Jigorokano Familiar lvl 15,913
11) PR + ST - 300k + A Tattoo of Augmentation lvl 31,602
12) MPR + DX - 300k + A Rune of Solitude lvl 27,016
13) MPB + EO - 300k + A Tattoo of Augmentation lvl 31,602
14) Strongest single minion(MPR) + Eva/UC - 200k + A Steel Familiar lvl 147,890
15) NW + Richest - 100k + A Tattoo of Augmentation lvl 433,426
16) MPB + EO, EO must be AMF - 200k + A Blacksword of Nan Elmoth [92x7](+6) (Won by RubberDuck)
17) Strongest Single Minion + Eva/UC, must be UC - A Tattoo of Endurance lvl 691,624 (Won by Lostling)
18) NW + Richest + Must have at least 1.5m NW - 100k + A Trollskin Armor (+20)
19) Strongest 2 minion team(MPR) + 2 minion MPB + MPB of at least 20k - 100k + A Mage Shield (+15)
20) Strongest 3 minion team(MPR) + 3 minion battles as challenger, at least 5000 battles challenged - A Trendy Tribal Tattoo (ToA) lvl 1,464,361


Winners may pick any item they wish as their prize, as long as it is at or below the combo they scored (20 being the most valuable, 1 being least.) Lostling will get the first pick, followed by RD, then Draco. Chatmail or post your picks and I will get them out ASAP.

Congratulations to the winners :)

lostling July 30 2007 1:00 PM EDT

:) TOE please number 17

Rubberduck[T] [Hell Blenders] July 30 2007 1:07 PM EDT

Thanks Slayer. No15 please.

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] July 30 2007 11:30 PM EDT

Do I even get a choice? Lol.... so I guess no. 8 for me ^_^

miteke [Superheros] July 31 2007 10:03 AM EDT

Who were the winners of the combos?

miteke [Superheros] July 31 2007 10:03 AM EDT

Or were the ones with no winners listed not won by anyone?

8DEOTWP July 31 2007 10:17 AM EDT

I was assuming only these three had successful combos.

dj1914 July 31 2007 10:18 AM EDT

Only 3 prizes were up for grabs. Depending on the rank of the combo(3 condition being higher) took priority over the double then single.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 July 31 2007 12:16 PM EDT

other combos were scored (none higher than Draco's, of course) but only the highest three combos counted
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