# Approximate NW Values of PTH Levels (in General)

## [RX3]CotillionSeptember 13 2007 5:22 PM EDT

I have been adding the approx nw values of PTH levels on the weapons in the Wiki. If it isn't too much to ask, I'd appreciate some feedback on what I can improve and such. Thanks again.

## bartjanSeptember 13 2007 5:29 PM EDT

Is this linear? Is for example the difference in NW between a x1+0 and x1+1 weapon the same as between a x100+0 and x100+1 weapon?

## [RX3]CotillionSeptember 13 2007 5:31 PM EDT

Well... I always thought the x was ALWAYS constant. What I did was multiply the x * the cost of x then subtract that value from the total NW of the weapon to get the PTH value. So I'd imagine that a x100 +1 weapon would have the same PTH NW as a x50 +1 weapon.

## [RX3]CotillionSeptember 13 2007 5:35 PM EDT

Oh... okay... I think I misunderstood your question. I didn't TRY to find a pattern or anything, and I didn't use a pattern to map them. Everyone says PTH NW is non-linear and I didn't argue with that.

## bartjanSeptember 13 2007 5:52 PM EDT

You're thinking linear equation, but I mean linear function, i.e. a function that obeys the rules of scalar multiplication. I don't know if the NW formula for weapons is that.

## [RX3]CotillionSeptember 13 2007 6:12 PM EDT

lol... You're makin me look like a dipstick because I have no idea what that stuff means, even after reading the pages. It's been a while since my last math class okay? :P ...

Anyhow... I went through expired auctions, Community> Named Weapons, xfer logs and some old FS/WTB threads. All of the NWs that I input into the Wiki WITHOUT the *, are from actual items. I did the actual formula via spreadsheet for each item.

## SacredpeanutSeptember 13 2007 8:37 PM EDT

"Is this linear? Is for example the difference in NW between a x1+0 and x1+1 weapon the same as between a x100+0 and x100+1 weapon? "

PTH and X cost are independent of each other, it costs exactly the same to upgrade a weapons PTH from y to y+1 regardless of the number of x's on it.

## [RX3]CotillionSeptember 14 2007 10:33 AM EDT

Hmmm... Bump?

NW increase from X1+0 to X1+1 is the same NW increase as X100+0 to X100+1.

## [RX3]CotillionSeptember 14 2007 2:32 PM EDT

I've known that... Is there anything besides that that can be changed or improved upon?

## [RX3]CotillionSeptember 14 2007 2:41 PM EDT

Add them to CBStuff? I got a boat load of the NWs from CBStuff... Speaking of CBStuff, where did you get all those NWs from? Well.. They aren't exactly NWs, they're blacksmith upgrade costs...

## [RX3]CotillionSeptember 16 2007 1:10 AM EDT

Hmmm... Guess I did a pretty flawless job then eh? Ah well. I hope people will look at it and help fill some missing points in.

## AdminNightStrikeSeptember 19 2007 11:02 PM EDT

I never did give you my awk script... sorry... oh, and grab my Exbow from the top items list.

## [RX3]CotillionSeptember 19 2007 11:27 PM EDT

Np NS. I just figured you were a little busy, so I did it by hand, after c&p'ing your DB chart.

You'd have had to taught me how to use it and all that. I'd guess it took me around 4-5 hours collectively, to input it all into the wiki. Gathering it all took the longest.

Anyhow, it was time well spent imo.