=\ sigh (in General)


lostling October 31 2007 9:51 PM EDT

can i please have my old homepage back? =\ this new squashed up look is kinda disorientating

QBBast [Hidden Agenda] October 31 2007 10:00 PM EDT


Oh! That's just horrifying!

QBBast [Hidden Agenda] October 31 2007 10:05 PM EDT


The PR/Max Tat/Money line is fine, everything after that is all askew.

chuck1234 October 31 2007 10:07 PM EDT

the problem arose after the server restarted, so obviously a glitch someplace

48xVanished48 October 31 2007 10:17 PM EDT

Be patient hes working hard on it. He's trying to change things up, and all you guys do is complain. Just wait a few days and if it doesn't change, complain. Don't complain 10 minutes after the change. Ridiculous.

phrog October 31 2007 10:18 PM EDT

Just wait for the fixes. The Creator has fixed everything so far. It'll just take time.

Lumpy Koala October 31 2007 10:19 PM EDT

so only homepage change? Sidebar stays the same ? Coz my sidebar + homepage combo looks funky :P

PoisoN October 31 2007 10:22 PM EDT

Whoa so much hardcoded attributes, I hope these are going to be changed back to css.

QBRanger October 31 2007 10:42 PM EDT

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Lochnivar October 31 2007 10:47 PM EDT

yep... I'm seeing the same as Ranger
(well the MPR number is a lot lower, among other things, but the layout is the same)

AdminJonathan October 31 2007 11:39 PM EDT

If yours looks like Ranger's, your browser is caching old css.

Go to Home, right click, select This Frame -> Reload Frame

QBsutekh137 October 31 2007 11:43 PM EDT

Still kind of horrendous.

You'd be surprised how very little font sizes alone are at distinguishing between things.

Color, lines, indentations -- we need a lot more than this, and yes, I reloaded the "Home" frame.

At this point it doesn't matter -- my team is relatively stagnant. But God help the person who wants a closer look at detail on non-onerous fashion.

QBsutekh137 October 31 2007 11:45 PM EDT

Did you just change backgrounds on some of the home page lines? Good! Now, one more highlighted background for the minion names and I love it! From 0 to 60!

QBsutekh137 October 31 2007 11:46 PM EDT

And this whole highlighting thing.... The background changes color when my mouse is over it... Why? I can't do anything to equipment with dragging or right-click. Home page should not have any highlighting with its current function set. Yes?

Lord Bob November 1 2007 9:06 AM EDT

"You'd be surprised how very little font sizes alone are at distinguishing between things. "

I agree with Sutekh.

Two things:
We need some kind of colored background for minion names. Simply making them big and bold isn't enough.

Also, increase the spacing between the last piece of armor on the preceding minion before the next minion's name. Right now it looks like Lord Bob is Defensive Shield's last piece of equipment, rather than a new minion.

Talion November 1 2007 9:06 AM EDT

Looks great, but 2 things are a bit annoying...

(1) The "(23)" part of the following information is wrapped on a 2nd line:

Unarmed Combat: 975,404/330,276 (74) Antimagic Field: 290,644/330,278 (?) Protection: 89,440/100,000 (23)

Maybe the font should be small enough so that everything always fits on one line.

(2) The drop down list boxes are a bit too big. I think they are the ones wasting the most space on the page. They should be a bit smaller.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] November 1 2007 9:30 AM EDT

The "Assign Selected Items" text is purple in colour compared to the white of "External Transfers" and harder to see against the red background of the box.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] November 1 2007 9:31 AM EDT

Ah. It's because I had already clicked on the "Assign..." button.

Now both are purple. :/

They would look nicer in the original white, I don't think we need to have the names changed colour when used.

QBsutekh137 November 1 2007 10:11 AM EDT

OK, don't laugh, my GIMP skills are...gimpy. But I thought I would actually try some styling to help show what I would envision as good visual elements for distinguishing home page areas:



(NOTE: I show four different styles here to give a taste, but would obviously want all four minions to have the same highlighting.)

For the first example (minion "Joe"), just a pale color offset. The second (minion "Hubbell Man") involves a gradient, not sure if that is feasible in the new theming (I know zero about CSS). The third example (minion "Dave") has a simple line...don't really like the look of that. And the fourth example uses simple italics for an offset.

Indenting works too...just indenting the items under the minion names would go a long way. As far as the above methods, I like the pale-color background the best (minion "Joe"). The color could even be paler, but still match the overall color scheme. The gradient is kind of cool too, though might be even cooler if it just graded into the background color itself.

Anyway, my visual skills are far from great, but these are some ideas...

AdminJonathan November 1 2007 10:16 AM EDT

Thanks for the input sutekh. Hopefully pixel will show up and make things awesome. :)

I'm closing this thread; please continue in the Changelog thread.
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