# AMF %age calculations and NSC (in General)

## horseguy001[The Knighthood]November 9 2007 1:25 PM EST

I was just fiddling around with the biggest AMF in the game and my DD to see where a good level to train it would be. Now I'm not sure if I am doing the calculation corrrectly:

In the wiki, the formula when having a bigger DD is X^(0.7)/2

Based on my understanding the ^ would be applied to X, then the whole ting divided by 2, right? If that is the case, then NSC blow AG out of the water. Check this out mages:

We will say Dude's AMF is about 3.5 mil, and with my CoI I will hope to have an effective CoC of about 4.5 mil. Now, that AMF will cast at .42. After the +16 of my NSC (not yet, but they will be that high XD) the AMF is now .26. Now, roughly same NW AG would give an effective CoC of about 4.9 mil, and AMF would cast at .40. So you are taking 14% less backlash from a smaller spell and doing 14% more damage, which makes up for the the smaller spell anyways.

Then I asked, what DD level would I need for an effect of .26? About a 9 million Effective DD against the biggest AMF in the game.

So, as far as AMF is concerned, my NSC will add over 4.5 mill to my effective DD, or +100%!

I am going to be completely honest, the conept of having a big mage is getting more and more exciting =)

## TalionNovember 9 2007 1:52 PM EST

I think that NSC only cancel the backlash, they do not augment the damage. In other words, if an AMF cancels 20% of your DD damage output without the NSC, it will still cancel 20% of that DD damage with the NSC equipped.

The only difference is that you will get less damage from the AMF backlash. So you can 'potentially' hit more times when using a pair of NSC because you might survive longer. Thus causing more damage in some fights than with a pair of AG.

This said, the difference in damage reduction between boosting DD level vs. reducing a % amount of AMF backlash is impressive. Thanks for testing this out.

## Adminedyit[Superheros]November 9 2007 2:40 PM EST

A base decay with NS +10 vs any of the large AMF out there will only be reduced to .90 effect so they block the reduction as well as the backlash, if they only blocked backlash the decay would still hit for no damage.

## TalionNovember 9 2007 2:48 PM EST

Wow! Powerful stuff then... very powerful stuff.

## AdminQBnovice[Cult of the Valaraukar]November 9 2007 3:46 PM EST

I *heart* my +17 named NS...they make my wee little familiar actually useful...(sorta)

## horseguy001[The Knighthood]November 9 2007 5:28 PM EST

I don't even think you would be disadvantaged against a team using DM, since they will be taking the full force blow of a 4.5 mil effect spell.

## QBRangerNovember 9 2007 8:00 PM EST

Yes, the NS are great vs characters with AMF.

However, vs characters with DM they are useless. A set of AGs would make the DM characters take even more damage from the increased level of your DD spell.

It all depends on whom you fight. I have asked quite a few mages which is better and some swear by AG's over NS's. They must fight a lot of characters with DM.

I know that for a base decay, the NS has no equal. A small boost with AG is nothing compared to lowering AMF from 1.0 to .89.
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