Decay/PL/RoBF Question (in General)


Relic November 11 2007 1:15 AM EST

Ok I am confused by this battle play by play.

Why does the TSA on Storm become active in the 6th round of Melee?

Which PL Minion absorbs damage first when there are more than one on a team?

How does a PL minion that takes damage via AMF not be absorbed by the primary PL Minion that is absorbing other damage?

In the 20th Round of Melee, it appears that Storm does not absorb the full amount of damage done to Hero, how is he still alive after that round?

Also, I though Melee was 20 Rounds, not 24 Rounds. There was only one round of Ranged in the battle.

Does anyone see something incredibly amiss with this scenario?

"Hero" [Oops]Reach burns from the flames surrounding Peanut (17613)
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw absorbs damage [17613]
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa takes damage from his own Decay (27769)!
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa's Decay hit Peanut [33962]
"Hero" [Oops]Reach stumbled swinging at Peanut

"Hero" [Oops]Reach burns from the flames surrounding Peanut (34886)
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw absorbs damage [34886]
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa takes damage from his own Decay (22771)!
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa's Decay hit Peanut [32264]
"Hero" [Oops]Reach mistimed his attack at Peanut

"Hero" [Oops]Reach burns from the flames surrounding Peanut (28236)
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw absorbs damage [28236]
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa takes damage from his own Decay (18672)!
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa's Decay hit Peanut [30651]
"Hero" [Oops]Reach mistimed his attack at Peanut

"Hero" [Oops]Reach burns from the flames surrounding Peanut (22854)
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw absorbs damage [22854]
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa takes damage from his own Decay (15311)!
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa's Decay hit Peanut [29118]
"Hero" [Oops]Reach mistimed his attack at Peanut

"Hero" [Oops]Reach burns from the flames surrounding Peanut (16114)
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw absorbs damage [16114]
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa takes damage from his own Decay (12555)!
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa's Decay hit Peanut [27662]
"Hero" [Oops]Reach's blow was dodged by Peanut

"Hero" [Oops]Reach burns from the flames surrounding Peanut (15285)
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw absorbs damage [15285]
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa takes damage from his own Decay (11339)!
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa's Decay hit Peanut [26279]
"Hero" [Oops]Reach's blow was dodged by Peanut
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw regenerated 9,001 HP

"Hero" [Oops]Reach burns from the flames surrounding Peanut (23798)
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw absorbs damage [23798]
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa takes damage from his own Decay (10829)!
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa's Decay hit Peanut [24965]
"Hero" [Oops]Reach mistimed his attack at Peanut
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw regenerated 9,259 HP

"Hero" [Oops]Reach burns from the flames surrounding Peanut (29830)
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw absorbs damage [29830]
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa takes damage from his own Decay (10342)!
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa's Decay hit Peanut [23717]
"Hero" [Oops]Reach's blow was dodged by Peanut
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw regenerated 9,259 HP

"Hero" [Oops]Reach burns from the flames surrounding Peanut (38641)
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw absorbs damage [38641]
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa takes damage from his own Decay (9876)!
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa's Decay hit Peanut [22531]
"Hero" [Oops]Reach stumbled swinging at Peanut
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw regenerated 9,259 HP

"Hero" [Oops]Reach burns from the flames surrounding Peanut (21953)
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw absorbs damage [21953]
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa takes damage from his own Decay (9432)!
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa's Decay hit Peanut [21405]
"Hero" [Oops]Reach stumbled swinging at Peanut
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw regenerated 9,259 HP

"Hero" [Oops]Reach burns from the flames surrounding Peanut (19777)
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw absorbs damage [19777]
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa takes damage from his own Decay (9008)!
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa's Decay hit Peanut [20334]
"Hero" [Oops]Reach stumbled swinging at Peanut
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw regenerated 9,259 HP

"Hero" [Oops]Reach burns from the flames surrounding Peanut (22665)
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw absorbs damage [22665]
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa takes damage from his own Decay (8602)!
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa's Decay hit Peanut [19318]
"Hero" [Oops]Reach mistimed his attack at Peanut
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw regenerated 9,259 HP

"Hero" [Oops]Reach burns from the flames surrounding Peanut (23397)
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw absorbs damage [23397]
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa takes damage from his own Decay (8215)!
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa's Decay hit Peanut [18352]
"Hero" [Oops]Reach stumbled swinging at Peanut
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw regenerated 9,259 HP

"Hero" [Oops]Reach burns from the flames surrounding Peanut (34450)
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw absorbs damage [34450]
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa takes damage from his own Decay (7845)!
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa's Decay hit Peanut [17434]
"Hero" [Oops]Reach swung wildly at Peanut
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw regenerated 9,259 HP

"Hero" [Oops]Reach burns from the flames surrounding Peanut (15476)
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw absorbs damage [15476]
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa takes damage from his own Decay (7492)!
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa's Decay hit Peanut [16562]
"Hero" [Oops]Reach mistimed his attack at Peanut
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw regenerated 9,259 HP

"Hero" [Oops]Reach burns from the flames surrounding Peanut (15898)
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw absorbs damage [15898]
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa takes damage from his own Decay (7155)!
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa's Decay hit Peanut [15734]
"Hero" [Oops]Reach mistimed his attack at Peanut
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw regenerated 9,259 HP

"Hero" [Oops]Reach burns from the flames surrounding Peanut (15965)
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw absorbs damage [15965]
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa takes damage from his own Decay (6833)!
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa's Decay hit Peanut [14948]
"Hero" [Oops]Reach stumbled swinging at Peanut
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw regenerated 9,259 HP

"Hero" [Oops]Reach burns from the flames surrounding Peanut (34949)
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw absorbs damage [34949]
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa takes damage from his own Decay (6526)!
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa's Decay hit Peanut [14200]
"Hero" [Oops]Reach mistimed his attack at Peanut
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw regenerated 9,259 HP

"Hero" [Oops]Reach burns from the flames surrounding Peanut (29498)
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw absorbs damage [29498]
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa takes damage from his own Decay (6232)!
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa's Decay hit Peanut [13490]
"Hero" [Oops]Reach mistimed his attack at Peanut
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw regenerated 9,259 HP

"Hero" [Oops]Reach burns from the flames surrounding Peanut (44147)
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw absorbs damage [13302]
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa takes damage from his own Decay (5952)!
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa's Decay hit Peanut [12816]
"Hero" [Oops]Reach swung wildly at Peanut
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw regenerated 9,259 HP

"Hero" [Oops]Reach burns from the flames surrounding Peanut (41153)
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw absorbs damage [10263]
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa takes damage from his own Decay (5684)!
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa's Decay hit Peanut [12175]
"Hero" [Oops]Reach mistimed his attack at Peanut
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw regenerated 9,259 HP

"Hero" [Oops]Reach burns from the flames surrounding Peanut (16894)
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw absorbs damage [10288]
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa takes damage from his own Decay (5428)!
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa's Decay hit Peanut [11566]
"Hero" [Oops]Reach mistimed his attack at Peanut
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw regenerated 9,259 HP

"Hero" [Oops]Reach burns from the flames surrounding Peanut (25731)
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw absorbs damage [10287]
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa takes damage from his own Decay (5184)!
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa's Decay hit Peanut [10988]
"Hero" [Oops]Reach swung wildly at Peanut
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw regenerated 9,259 HP

"Hero" [Oops]Reach burns from the flames surrounding Peanut (30669)
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw absorbs damage [10287]
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa takes damage from his own Decay (4951)!
"Tornado" [ReD]NaDa's Decay hit Peanut [10438]
"Hero" [Oops]Reach stumbled swinging at Peanut
"Storm" [NC]...YellOw regenerated 9,259 HP

Iluvatar[NK] November 11 2007 1:18 AM EST

Why does the TSA on Storm become active in the 6th round of Melee?

After you burn through all my AS HP, then TSA activates.

Which PL Minion absorbs damage first when there are more than one on a team?

The one with the highest level trained. In my case, YellOw.

How does a PL minion that takes damage via AMF not be absorbed by the primary PL Minion that is absorbing other damage?

AMF cannot be absorbed by PL, ever.

In the 20th Round of Melee, it appears that Storm does not absorb the full amount of damage done to Hero, how is he still alive after that round?

I regenerate 9.2k, which keeps me barely alive, I think? I'm not sure.

Relic November 11 2007 2:25 AM EST

I was under the impression that the TSA regenerates based on your natural HP not your inflated HP. Is that incorrect?

Iluvatar[NK] November 11 2007 3:16 AM EST

That's correct. That's why it doesn't activate when I lose AS HP.

QBRanger November 11 2007 10:09 AM EST

Yes Glory.

Let us take this scenario.

1M base hp boosted 2M by AS.

At the start of the battle this minion has 3M HP. He take damage but the TSA will only kick in when the HP is less then 1M, his native HP amount. And then he will only regenerate 50k hp a round UNTIL he gets back to 1M hp. He will not regenerate to over 1M as that is his native amount of hp.

QBRanger November 11 2007 10:31 AM EST

Also,

The TSA's regeneration can "revive" a minion back to the living analogous to the VA ability.

So in your case, the PL should have killed that minion, but the regeneration allowed it to revive.

Relic November 11 2007 11:05 AM EST

That seems a bit overpowered when used in conjunction with PL.

QBsutekh137 November 11 2007 11:18 AM EST

And in conjunction with all the other payers of damage reduction getting the threshold down into PL's range and the range for TSA to bring it all back.
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