Elven Cap/Helm (in General)

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] December 9 2007 11:53 PM EST

I really want one... And since the Tats grow so fast and we have to spend so much more exp for Archery and other skills... can't we please have an Elven Cap now?

Fanta [Fanta's Forge] December 9 2007 11:56 PM EST

I wouldn't mind one...

Cube December 9 2007 11:57 PM EST

Would any archers really use it?

TheHatchetman December 10 2007 12:07 AM EST

not really, but a PL or Evasion guy would get a kick out of it...

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] December 10 2007 2:31 AM EST

Or even a tank that needs more Skill for his BL that just dropped below .60 ^_~

Brakke Bres [Ow man] December 10 2007 6:36 AM EST

evasion would be lovely with this ow yes please do

Flamey December 10 2007 7:22 AM EST

somehow I don't see this happening.

Eurynome Bartleby [Bartleby's] December 10 2007 7:35 AM EST

I'd like one.

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] December 11 2007 10:37 PM EST

Bump... Lost has some Points to post...

lostling December 11 2007 10:42 PM EST

lol i think its high time we got one of those :) it can be widely used across the board...

for an archer since with a HOC you normally cant even hit during the 1st round... might as well use an elven helm or a HOE...


UC i think it has needed a boost for like 4ever...

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] December 11 2007 10:43 PM EST

Oh... maybe even give it a boost to UC like Helm's give ^_^

Lord Bob December 11 2007 11:15 PM EST

"evasion would be lovely with this ow yes please do"

Just what we need, more Evasion.


Yukk December 12 2007 5:09 PM EST

Agreed Lord Bob, then instead of 15M exp cancelling out my 200M of exp and 100M NW, someone could do it with 10M exp !

Ulord[NK] December 12 2007 5:23 PM EST

"Let's give another buff to RoBF!"
"Good idea!"

I thought you guys hated RoBF :/

QBRanger December 12 2007 5:52 PM EST

I used to advocate for a dex helm. Now with evasion being so powerful, forget it!

QBOddBird December 12 2007 8:58 PM EST

I wanna Dex helm. Then I can replace my HoE with the new DX helm, and put more NW into my ST gears, and less EXP into my BL...*smiles* This is a good idea.

I am totally in favor of QBOOTY boosters.

TheHatchetman December 12 2007 9:08 PM EST

steroids in your booty too, eh?

Yukk December 13 2007 7:03 AM EST

Don't forget Elven Pants. Those would definitely be a booty booster.

BluBBen December 13 2007 10:05 AM EST

A skill boosting helm would maybe be a good idea, but only if Evasion was nerfed first. Those pure Evasion minions would easily get a 100% boost to Evasion and that's to much free XP from items!

Ulord[NK] December 13 2007 10:07 AM EST

I don't really understand the general complaint of having to put too much into skills like archery and bl. You guys make it sound like these skills don't do anything. Archery brings your cth to 100% for elbow, 90% for every other bow out there. BL gives a wooping 60% damage increase. Why would you not invest experience in that? Junction, on the other hand, is a little underwhelming...

TheHatchetman December 13 2007 12:36 PM EST

would "ST: 1,717,500 / 750,000*" be too much of a boost? :P

this is not boosted by ToA

iBananco [Blue Army] December 13 2007 12:38 PM EST

The only reason Archery exists to bring CTH up to 100% for bows is because it has an 80% penalty in the first place.

Ulord[NK] December 13 2007 12:52 PM EST

That's like saying only reason why someone gets wheelchair is because he's crippled in the first place. So does that mean all wheelchairs should be free? Nope don't think so. You are still getting significant bang for your bucks from that exp. Without it, you'd be crippled. My point stands.

QBOddBird December 13 2007 1:14 PM EST

Ulord - if you took what I posted earlier as a complaint, then don't. It wasn't. ;'D

"The Hatchetman, Dec 12
steroids in your booty too, eh?"

Think of it more like implants.

Ulord[NK] December 13 2007 1:23 PM EST

Not targeting you specifically Oob. It's just the general sentiment of the post I've read thus far in the changelog and otherwise. Sorry if the posts sounded harsh :P.

iBananco [Blue Army] December 13 2007 5:35 PM EST

I fail to see how that analogy works. I never said archery should cost no exp. I was merely refuting your claim that archery + a bow gives an inherent accuracy advantage vs. say a sling or crossbow.

Ulord[NK] December 13 2007 9:40 PM EST

I can argue bows do a lot more damage than xbows and slings but we all know they each have their distinctive use. That being said, if you want to use a bow for what it does (brute, horrible, impaling death machine), archery exp provides you 100% CTH, up from 20% CTH. Therefore, spending that exp is well justified. The exp is not "wasted" or needs to be buffed so you can "waste" less.

Think about it this way. Bows are early artilleries, super damaging but not very accurate. You don't need 2 billion str to deliver killing blow each round, logically, you should spend more exp in improving its accuracy. And archery does exactly that. Your exp gets its worth.

In other words, archery improves you massively as a bow user. It is not a sunk cost, no more than dex is a sunk cost as you need to train it to hit.
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