December 10th - Black Market Voting Guide - MH (in General)

[RX3]Cotillion December 10 2007 6:32 PM EST

Corn - 4
Morg - 8 (Morgul-Hammer 11 150 92.7%)
EB - 7 (Pair of Elven Boots 18 88 79.5%)

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Iluvatar[NK] December 10 2007 6:40 PM EST


Wizard'sFirstRule December 10 2007 8:42 PM EST

EB ftw

[P]Mitt December 10 2007 8:56 PM EST

Elven Boots

Last Gasp December 12 2007 7:19 PM EST

Morgul-Hammer 15 150 90.0%

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] December 12 2007 11:58 PM EST

You might want to change this to EB not MH since it is the EB getting all the votes...

Iluvatar[NK] December 13 2007 12:13 AM EST

Morg - 8 (Morgul-Hammer 11 150 92.7%)
EB - 7 (Pair of Elven Boots 18 88 79.5%)

How does the voting process work anyways? By that it seems that EB has more total votes than MH.

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] December 13 2007 12:25 AM EST

something like Every vote in the BMVG gives one total vote for an item... and every two votes in the black market for a certain item gives 1 point... points are added up at the beginning of the next bmvg.

Last Gasp December 13 2007 12:59 PM EST

Morgul-Hammer 18 150 88.0%

Synge [Memento Mori] December 13 2007 1:18 PM EST

I'd like to suggest that when looking at the votes already in the Black Market and determining what to vote for next, you go with the one that has the better percentage, not the one with the most votes. Choosing a 150-vote Morg because it has one more vote than a 88-vote EB seems to be an inefficient decision.

Brakke Bres [Ow man] December 13 2007 2:28 PM EST

A Pair of Elven Boots 53 88 39.8% uhm lol?
Get this done with the votes then go for the MH?

[RX3]Cotillion December 13 2007 9:06 PM EST

Pair of Elven Boots 54 88 38.6%

Let's just go for the elven boots.

Last Gasp December 15 2007 12:47 AM EST

Morgul-Hammer 20 150 86.7%

Armageddon December 15 2007 1:12 AM EST


NINAbuser December 15 2007 2:58 AM EST

Maybe the BMV is going in a terrible direction and people are starting to accept bribes... We need a full scale investigation in my opinion and should just put all of our efforts into Ax/Ex bows till the case is solved :P.

Last Gasp December 15 2007 6:39 PM EST

It happens on occasion - insurrection. But it messes with those of us who do follow the rules because our votes end up getting wasted which slows down the spawning of items rather than making things better.

Morgul-Hammer 21 150 86.0%

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Iluvatar[NK] December 15 2007 7:12 PM EST

I think there's an issue with the way it's counted, though.

Considering that EBs had more BM votes at the start of this thread, and only lost in the 'official' vote by 1, it seems somewhat skewed to vote for the other item.

I think that a BM vote should count for 1 entire thread vote in order to resolve this.

Last Gasp December 15 2007 8:46 PM EST

So if somebody votes in the BM and votes here they get 2 votes? Seems like loading the dice to me.

[RX3]Cotillion December 15 2007 9:37 PM EST

What if we count the votes in the actual blackmarket like this:

Items requiring 150 and 173 votes will count as ratio as 5 blackmarket votes to 1 BMVG vote.

Items requiring 113 votes will count as a ratio of 4 blackmarket votes to 1 BMVG vote.

All other items count as a ratio of 3 blackmarket votes to 1 BMVG vote.

That should balance things a little right?

Pair of Elven Boots 73/88 17.0%

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] December 15 2007 9:42 PM EST

How bout all votes count as one vote one way or another.... its starting to turn out that way anyways.

Wizard'sFirstRule December 16 2007 10:20 AM EST

before the new results come out, I would like to reverse my vote to a BoTH (the one handed weapon with built in VA - if I got the name wrong, I am still voting for the one handed weapon with VA)

Last Gasp December 17 2007 1:13 AM EST

" How bout all votes count as one vote one way or another.... its starting to turn out that way anyways."

Because as I said above that means that some people will get TWO votes towards an item while others get only one. I think the simplification of what we have now is best it gives a lesser weight to the BM votes to mitigate the issues with double votes.

Last Gasp December 17 2007 1:16 AM EST

Morgul-Hammer 22 150 85.3%

My vote for next one (since we're going with EB's) is MH and then DB after that.

IndependenZ December 17 2007 10:57 AM EST

Pair of Elven Boots 87 88 1.1%

QBRanger December 17 2007 11:00 AM EST

EBs are done.

Let us now go for the MH.

Last Gasp December 17 2007 12:02 PM EST

Morgul-Hammer 30 150 80.0%

Last Gasp December 19 2007 11:58 AM EST

Morgul-Hammer 37 150 75.3%

[RX3]Cotillion December 20 2007 1:32 AM EST

Morgul-Hammer 43 150 71.3%

Last Gasp December 20 2007 4:48 PM EST

Morgul-Hammer 52 150 65.3%

Last Gasp December 21 2007 3:19 AM EST

Morgul-Hammer 55 150 63.3%

Last Gasp December 21 2007 10:53 PM EST

Morgul-Hammer 62 150 58.7%

Last Gasp December 22 2007 9:54 PM EST

Morgul-Hammer 67 150 55.3%

[RX3]Cotillion December 24 2007 10:43 AM EST

Morgul-Hammer 74 150 50.7%

Last Gasp December 24 2007 1:41 PM EST

Morgul-Hammer 81 150 46.0%

Last Gasp December 25 2007 3:16 AM EST

Morgul-Hammer 84 150 44.0%

[RX3]Cotillion December 25 2007 2:33 PM EST

Morgul-Hammer 89 150 40.7%

[RX3]Cotillion December 26 2007 11:08 PM EST

Morgul-Hammer 94 150 37.3%

Last Gasp December 28 2007 1:33 AM EST

Morgul-Hammer 99 150 34.0%

Last Gasp December 28 2007 9:29 PM EST

Morgul-Hammer 103 150 31.3%

Last Gasp December 28 2007 9:33 PM EST

The vote was for MH folks... We would be just a three! votes away from complete now if you'd just voted the way you're supposed to.

SundariZelia 6:35 PM EST
Meteor Hawk Dec 24
SundariZelia Dec 19
Levon Dec 27
Sickone Dec 24
miteke Dec 19
Herbstwind Dec 27
AbbathorX Dec 24
PoisoN Dec 19
j'bob Dec 27
Bull3t F4c3 Dec 24
Synge Dec 18
Nixon Jibfest Dec 26
j'bob Dec 22
Levon Dec 18
Frost Dec 25
Serialkiler Dec 22
Herbstwind Dec 18
Serialkiler Dec 25
Glory Dec 21
Armageddon Dec 17
Salvatore Dec 25
please give me chat Dec 21
Smot Poker Dec 17
Aargh Dec 25
Kong Ming Dec 21
Bull3t F4c3 Dec 17
Corpse Dec 25
[CB1]Gun Dec 20
[MP]MoneyPig Dec 17
mollevitteN Dec 25
The Cornerback23 Dec 20
lotien Dec 17
nooneknows Dec 25
Little Devil Dec 20
Talion Dec 17
TrueDevil Dec 24
Henk Bres Dec 20
Aargh Dec 17
PainKiller Dec 24
three4thsforsaken Dec 20
Herbstwind Dec 15
Henk Bres Dec 24
thep00rman Dec 19

[RX3]Cotillion December 29 2007 1:23 AM EST

Morgul-Hammer 106 150 29.3%

Last Gasp December 29 2007 2:58 PM EST

Morgul-Hammer 111 150 26.0%

Last Gasp December 30 2007 12:26 PM EST

Morgul-Hammer 117 150 22.0%

Brakke Bres [Ow man] December 30 2007 12:31 PM EST

What I can't vote for something else? Do I have to follow this guide? It's a damn guide, get over yourself.

Last Gasp December 30 2007 4:56 PM EST

Of course you can vote for whatever you want to vote for... but it seems to me that it makes far more sense to vote for one thing at a time so that what you're voting for actually spawns and your vote's not wasted.

Geeze, is teamwork such a hard concept to understand?

[RX3]Cotillion December 31 2007 10:38 PM EST

I don't know how people don't understand the concept of the BMVG... It really is quite simple. I don't need to explain why it's here.

Morgul-Hammer 109 150 27.3%

Last Gasp January 1 2008 4:43 AM EST

What he said! :-)

Morgul-Hammer 111 150 26.0%

[RX3]Cotillion January 2 2008 8:44 AM EST

Morgul-Hammer 118 150 21.3%

Gettin' pretty close now.

[RX3]Cotillion January 2 2008 11:03 PM EST

Morgul-Hammer 130 150 13.3%

Jake the Snayke January 2 2008 11:35 PM EST

Morgul-Hammer 131 150 12.7%

I vote for Altars Gloves

[RX3]Cotillion January 3 2008 12:11 AM EST

I think we should get the MH spawned, then finish off the Corn, since it has about half it's votes needed.

After we get the MH and Corn spawned, then we should go back to the regularly scheduled programming... A new BMVG thread will be made for the Corn after the MH is spawned, then people can cast there votes in the new Corn thread...

Does this stuff make sense and sound good?

Last Gasp January 3 2008 2:36 AM EST

Morgul-Hammer 136 150 9.3%

Works for me.

Last Gasp January 3 2008 10:20 AM EST

Morgul-Hammer 131 150 12.7%

(Yes, we lost 5 overnight)

Synge [Memento Mori] January 3 2008 10:39 AM EST

Who actually wanted the MH? From what it looks like, it was just 8 random votes that made you select it for the BMVG. Why does it make sense to let 8 random votes put us on a course for a 150-vote item that 8 people at the most want? If you want to know why people are not following the guide, think about what you are asking them to do. Pick items that people want and that have a reasonable cost, and people will follow it.

QBRanger January 3 2008 11:15 AM EST

Instead of just taking the item with the most votes at the time, why not ask people what they want spawned.

I personally voted for the corn as that is more useful to more people.

Who needs another MH when plenty can be found in auctions?

QBOddBird January 3 2008 11:26 AM EST

I'm with Ranger.

If we go by your method of counting BMVG votes as well as BM votes, I can go vote for a HxBow twice in the BM and then come back to this thread, vote for it, and bam! I just created two points for HxBow.

Just count BMVG votes. That way everyone gets -ONE-.

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] January 3 2008 11:26 AM EST

petty squabbles and power struggles within the black market will likely just make people like myself just say to hell with it and not even vote.

i think a more adult and mature way of handling things would be that if you disagree with the way things are being done, make a post and come up with a better way of doing it. whilst this is taking place let's go ahead and support the current system and not waste over a hundred votes! doing that will just anger many who really don't need more items anyways and are just voting to help others out.

what has been happening the last few weeks is just silly and counter-productive.

[RX3]Cotillion January 3 2008 2:00 PM EST

I didn't make the rule of counting blackmarket votes, I think it'd be better to just count the votes in the BMVG.

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] January 3 2008 4:15 PM EST

i guess it could be said that counting the bm votes at all only encourages rogue voters and does nothing to reward the loyal bmvg regulars. i would tend to agree with you then in that those votes shouldn't be counted at all.

Jake the Snayke January 3 2008 5:12 PM EST


Last Gasp January 4 2008 1:00 AM EST

Morgul-Hammer 137 150 8.7%

Colonel Custard [The Knighthood] January 4 2008 1:22 AM EST

You suckas still ain't spawned that crap? Fine, I'll throw mine in to help y'all out.

Last Gasp January 4 2008 2:02 AM EST

Morgul-Hammer 142 150 5.3%

[RX3]Cotillion January 4 2008 11:44 PM EST

Morgul-Hammer 140 150 6.7%

TheHatchetman January 5 2008 12:12 AM EST

24 days and counting... What's better is that my vote just now put it from 140 to 140, as an old vote was lost when i voted. Five more votes get lost today, so we need 15 votes in the next 24 hours for a weapon that everyone wants so badly... :P

Jake the Snayke January 5 2008 2:21 AM EST

i remember really wanting that.
until i changed strats...once again

[RX3]Cotillion January 7 2008 8:33 AM EST

Morgul-Hammer 146 150 2.7%

4 more!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!shift+1!!1!!!!

GO PATS January 7 2008 8:41 AM EST

Morgul Hammer, 150 - 150... Don't bother bidding, it's mine.

IndependenZ January 7 2008 11:49 AM EST

Well, the MH is in auctions now, so erm, Cornuthaum, anyone? ;)

Cornuthaum 40 88 54.0%

Jake the Snayke January 7 2008 3:48 PM EST

i love the corn

Cornuthaum 42 88 52.3%
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