shield that doesn't decrease UC or increases UC... (in General)

Jamba in da Juice January 10 2008 8:48 PM EST

All shields decrease UC damage, and i was thinking there should be a 'small shield' or something that doesn't give as much AC as some other shields (or some type of penalty) and maybe even increase UC damage, since people in real life who use small shields in combat could use it to punch somebody in the face. All we need to make this happen is Jonathan's permission and a name.....

any thoughts on this?

FuriousHobo January 10 2008 8:51 PM EST

Not increase UC because i dont believe that is reasonable, but to have a shield to give a little AC with little penalty and not decrease the UC effect. As i am a One Minion big-time UC user, i would recommend that. However, having what you said could be fine too. :)

Ulord[NK] January 10 2008 8:51 PM EST

Nobody can say no to a UC buff :)

[P]Mitt January 10 2008 8:52 PM EST

if the point of Unarmed Combat is to be unarmed, why should there be a shield that you can use as a weapon be added.

With a shield that increases UC damage, you're not... unarmed.

QBBarzooMonkey January 10 2008 8:52 PM EST

Ditto what Ulord said, twice.


Talion January 10 2008 8:53 PM EST

I agree 100% with this idea. I have proposed it before and I am still in favor of one.

Talion January 10 2008 8:55 PM EST

<Talion> I agree with that UC shield idea Jamba
<Talion> I have proposed it before.
<Talion> The best would be removing the UC penalty from the BOM
<Ranger> that would be good
<BarzooMonkey> Yes, that would be!
<Talion> It would make the BOM an actually usable shield.

Yukk January 10 2008 9:07 PM EST

How about these shuko.
They're ninja climbing claws which can also be used in offence and to stop a sword.
Or so the story goes.

Talion January 10 2008 9:08 PM EST

Those look suspiciously like a pair of Cesti.

Jamba in da Juice January 10 2008 9:14 PM EST

you'd have to point your arms downward to block it, if you point them up the sword wold deflect, just be careful not to let it come back and skin your arm.

Lumpy Koala January 10 2008 9:58 PM EST

I still prefer a VA glove :)

QBRanger January 10 2008 10:36 PM EST

Making the BOM a power shield usable by monks would be a great thing.

It is a buckler, which is small enough to fit on the arm of a monk, seems logical to me.

Colonel Custard January 10 2008 11:00 PM EST

Yes to the BoM idea. Yes, yes, yes. Yes yes. Or, in the words of Bono, "Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah..." etc.

QBJohnnywas January 11 2008 3:20 AM EST

Lumpy, as Novice keeps saying when we mention VA gloves....VA Helm.......

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] January 11 2008 4:15 AM EST

I still want my Elven Cap

Armageddon January 11 2008 4:26 AM EST

I say we change the buckler to a UC shield or make a lantern shield.

Flamey January 11 2008 8:59 AM EST

Shield that doesn't give UC penalty would be smashing, though I think Jon would prefer UC to be that, unarmed. Which is probably all the shields thus far have had a UC penalty.

QBJohnnywas January 11 2008 9:13 AM EST

Flamey, you've mentioned it and it was mentioned earlier in the thread, but how does using a shield negate the 'unarmed' quality? If you're holding a shield you're not armed, you're just holding a shield. Yes, you could in reality use it to inflict damage, but how many of CB shields inflict damage anyway?

But a UC shield...

We could call it Jackie Chan's Chair or something. Chuck Norris' eyebrow...

maybe not. ;)

Lumpy Koala January 11 2008 9:20 AM EST

well I always thought VA glove would be more realistic with vampiric touch :P But helm with vampiric fangs sounds good to me too :D

Talion January 11 2008 9:24 AM EST

How about VA bracers that could be worn as a shield along with a pair of HG?

QBJohnnywas January 11 2008 9:28 AM EST

Of course, with UC's track record, we may as well get some wooly mittens and fluffy slippers and sit it down by the fireside and bring it some warm milk.

Maybe rename it Kitten Power or something.

I love UC and for a while I did good things with it. But I can't help but get depressed at the amount of damage a big UC actually does in comparison to other things.

Flamey January 11 2008 10:20 AM EST

JW, I was talking about Jon's perspective, he seems to see it that way. If every single shield has the same constant hurting UC penalty he probably doesn't want a UC shield. Mages can use a KS because there are varying DD penalties for each of the shields, not a constant detrimental one like with UC.

QBJohnnywas January 11 2008 10:24 AM EST

Yeah, I know Jon doesn't seem to like the idea. Seems daft to me but hey, I think the RBF is rubbish!

Marlfox [Cult of the Valaraukar] January 11 2008 2:32 PM EST

VA bracer's would, to put it phonetically, rawk!

QBOddBird January 11 2008 5:34 PM EST

That your pink couch, Talion?

muon [The Winds Of Fate] January 12 2008 1:18 AM EST

An Obi to go in the shield slot. After all, the Gi isn't much use if it isn't held together ;-)
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