Exshot has a weakness! (in General)
So here's an interesting twist. I finally made the move from Iron Shot to Explosive Shot on my SOD-wielding rear wall. Interestingly enough, I now stalemate against Xanas, someone I've been trying to beat for a while. See, I've lost to him since I started my character. The only way I gained the upper hand was with a tattoo, and as most of you know, I'm a Roe-user. Recently, I found that I could win with the use of a SOD + IS. I never thought that that sudden win would turn to a stalemate with SOD + Exshot, but here you go -- a real life example where I go from a loss to a win with IS, and to a stalemate with Exshot.
For those curious as to why this happens, it's because the exshot does *too much* damage, and I die from GA damage before I can regenerate my HP with my TSA. Cool, eh?
January 17 2008 5:37 AM EST
Wow, more tactic to CB!
January 17 2008 5:51 AM EST
GA damage, evasion, RBF, EC. All very bad for me.
The only way I've found of getting past GA with ex shot is to boost the damage so you kill the opponent more quickly. Only helps against average sized GAs though, the big ones - well say goodnight if you come up against them!
January 17 2008 6:39 AM EST
That's the reason why I train 50% of my experience to dispel magic to stop GA from killing me ;)
January 17 2008 9:01 AM EST
The Iconics 3e Score / PR / MPR: 2,348,302 / 2,892,383 / 2,512,376
Xanas Score / PR / MPR: 2,277,217 / 3,799,991 / 2,832,764
So as I understand it you are saying ex shots are not overpowered because they do sooooo much damage that you PWN your own face off when using them against some who is almost 1 mil PR and 300k MPR higher then you. That is the worst argument I have ever seen for an item not being overpowered.
January 17 2008 9:55 AM EST
I do not think NS was saying the Exshot is or is not overpowered.
He was just saying that there are rare cases when the Iron Shot is better.
Yeah, there are a couple of cases like this.
A while back (when I was fighting with Black Rose? or maybe it was Atrix? not sure - anyway, the automatic heal wasn't in place), there was an opponent who would kill me if I fought with full health - he had VA + a BoTh, and if my front minion had a full quota of health, I ended up losing. If, however, he was almost dead, I beat him with a round to spare ;-)
There are a lot of interesting dynamics in this game.
Yoyo... seriously... re-read my post.
January 18 2008 3:25 AM EST
"He was just saying that there are rare cases when the Iron Shot is better."
"using them against some who is almost 1 mil PR and 300k MPR higher then you."
While you did misread the post, here is some more food for thought:
The Iconics 3e - Net Worth: $416,718,308
Xanas - Net Worth: $114,906,193
My NW doesn't matter. First of all, that includes a ton of unequipped NW, and so is a meaningless comparison. Second, all I was trying to say was that I switched from one ammo type to another, and it changed the fight outcome. Why are you people trying to turn this into something it's not?
January 18 2008 3:43 AM EST
I see your:
"Why are you people trying to turn this into something it's not?"
And raise with my:
"While you did misread the post" :P
January 18 2008 3:49 AM EST
and the wink was because I had said a situation like this would come up and was to be considered before removing ES and making SoD auto-explode... :P
January 18 2008 8:43 AM EST
I misread your post NS. I was wrong to do so. Completely my mistake.
January 18 2008 10:11 AM EST
Never thought I would hear someone complain about doing too much damage in missile rounds.
January 18 2008 10:21 AM EST
yeah, too bad he's not complaining, he's simply stating why and how.
Ranger, what are you referring to?
January 18 2008 11:37 AM EST
"it's because the exshot does *too much* damage, and I die from GA damage before I can regenerate my HP with my TSA. "
Maybe not so much a complaint but a very interesting observation.
January 18 2008 11:43 AM EST
A similar thing used to happen with Fanta (I think) against me. His UC character probably would have beaten me since I couldn't hit him, but his SoD wiped out his minion with 3 sets of GA return before he got to melee.
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