Can we get the BOM off the power shield category? (in General)
April 6 2008 10:31 AM EDT
With the new changes, the BOM is a very nice item.
The strength boost is quite impressive, and makes using a 1H weapon much more attractive.
However, single minion characters cannot use it and a tattoo.
Just my Sunday musings!
April 6 2008 10:32 AM EDT
Ooops Fat fingers in the title.
Can an admin change COM ----> BOM?
April 6 2008 10:33 AM EDT
and then there will only be MGS in the power shield cat lol.... i would love to see more powershields being introduced
April 6 2008 10:35 AM EDT
As would I, however, it appears the BOM was placed into that category to keep the MgS company.
Time for it to be a usable item.
BOM + TOA is the reason it's there.
Maybe leave it in the category but have it add to STR and DX?
ToA backed minon with HoE, AoM and BoM? I don't think so.
TSA usually provides just as much, if not more ST compare to a ToA.
don't you have enough strength? Oh wait you want more nw...
April 6 2008 11:50 AM EDT
JS does have a valid point.
The TSA gives quite the strength boost and regeneration ability.
For me, having trained strength that is better then the TOA.
However for those with little or no trained strength the TOA is nice.
The addition of the BOM to the TOA would not be too excessive IMO. And with ENC is certainly needed by tanks.
we shouldn't be thinking of ways to compensate for people with low strength. It is needed to do damage simple as that. People shouldn't get away with training little of it. Plus there are tons of strength items.
A week ago, I would've been all for this, but now BoM does have the power to raise your encumbrance, which is extremely powerful...
as far as "TSA usually provides just as much, if not more ST compare to a ToA."
The TSA often can do this, but the BoM doesn't boost the ST added by ToA, strength boosting gears boost the ToA-added ST just as much ;)
Strength boosting gears don't touch ToA ST.
April 6 2008 12:05 PM EDT
Actually all strength boosting gears do boost the strength granted by the TOA. Just like all dex boosting gears boost the dex granted by the TOA.
It was a change made over 2 years ago if my memory is correct.
In that case, the wiki needs updating.
April 6 2008 12:14 PM EDT
i have an interesting suggestion
Rune of negation lvl 20 (can be named for larger effect)
gives you entire team 20% more encumbrance, WA and reduces your PR by 20%
It seems that the ToA is the main concern here, Make the ToA BoM combo incompatible, but open up the other tats to combo off the BoM. Then the jiggy and haldion would be able to get the boost.
Since when does Jiggy get help from Junction? :P
TSA + BOM < TOA + BOM because the TOA boost DX and PTH as well as ST.
Said another way,
TSA < TOA
April 6 2008 12:25 PM EDT
i would like to point out that soxjr's 3mill lvl tatt only gives him like 20 PTH :)
On the other hand, TSAs give less PR and offer regen, as well as a sizeable amount of AC, as well as the ability to choose the MgS and EC.
The BoM was moved to the PS category before the introduction of the TSA and it's massive increase to STR.
If it was originally moved because STR increases with the possibility of ToA + BoM was too much, now that ;
1: There exists a Body armour capable of increases STR with a PS anyway (and no Cloak...)
2: the ToA STR was changed (reduced and made to be effected by item increases)
There's really no reason to make the humble BoM a PS. It's just not good enough for the drawbacks.
April 6 2008 2:41 PM EDT
And let us not forget it only gives +1 str per + with a 1H weapon.
With a 2H weapon it gives a paltry 1/4% bonus per +.
April 6 2008 2:52 PM EDT
Still quite a low amount.
Hopefully the new changes to 1H weapons will make them far more popular.
April 6 2008 3:10 PM EDT
I say just make it work well for two handed weapons.
April 6 2008 6:05 PM EDT
"JS, 12:03 PM EDT
Strength boosting gears don't touch ToA ST."
You are totally, 100% wrong. Just thought I'd let you know.
If you don't believe me, you didn't see when I hit 130%+ STR bonus on Hejin. He had, I believe, 1.74M STR/750k and 1.3M DX/900k. I could be wrong, I've since retired him and removed his gears since I've temporarily stopped playing.
Oh yeah, and that was at around ~800k MPR. No tattoo could've added all that. The disadvantage lies in getting no extra ToA PTH.
Ranger already corrected my mistake 13 posts ago.
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