Artificial Score Reduction (in General)

Wizard'sFirstRule April 7 2008 8:03 AM EDT

Is it legal to arrange with a person with a lot less score (probably a new player) to be online at certain hour to farm you (with you putting a Mage Shield on your mage, for example) to quickly lose your points, making you less of a target for other clannies.

QBRanger April 7 2008 8:07 AM EDT

Nothing illegal about it.

Immoral maybe.

There was one time where I put a MgS on my character and let OB farm me to the top score.

Ulord[NK] April 7 2008 10:21 AM EDT

That's a foolish thing to do if you want higher reward. By dropping your score, you drop the score of all the opponents you hit who in turn drop the score of their opponents. You get a cascading effect that results in you hitting players of less score/CB. Whatever benefit of extra clan points would be moot at best and you hurt every other player around you.

Usul [CHOAM] April 7 2008 10:39 AM EDT

wow score mechanics in this game seems more complex than it's written. I believe Ulord's point is most valid.

j'bob April 7 2008 10:47 AM EDT

Actually, unless your opponents (the ones who hit you for score) rely HEAVILY on you to keep their score up (which in the case we're talking about is more than likely NOT the case) it's not going to have much of a cascading affect (on you).
At most, it protects the person in question from getting farmed heavily prior to him starting his own fighting on Monday, cause as soon as he does, his score is gonna skyrocket quite quickly.
The biggest concern should lie with the people farming him. Because they will artificially inflate their score, maybe well beyond what it should be, causing the "bigger fish" to notice them much sooner. Which if you're in a clan... is bad news. Grab the attention of folks I'm not going to be able to beat (or stale or draw!) for a long time? No thank you very much.

Ulord[NK] April 7 2008 10:52 AM EDT

Actually what happens is the people who can beat you is often the prey of people that you beat. The classic rock paper scissor. This is especially true at the score range where fight lists are stable. So if you drop the score of people you can beat, and they drop the score of people that beat you. Everyone around you all have overall lower score with no way of raising that quickly because the score differential tend to flatten out at a lower point. That readjusts overtime. This is why every time an upstart NCB start taking down the higher ranks, scores tends to sink a little overall.

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] April 7 2008 4:10 PM EDT

Or when some people decide to let anyone attack them on Sundays for free... its all the same, it lowers the overall score of everyone which then takes about a month or two to level out again where it should be.

QBOddBird April 7 2008 4:19 PM EDT

If people feel like letting others beat them, that's their prerogative. :)

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] April 7 2008 4:25 PM EDT

LA's been doing this for a couple of weeks now. I dont see anything wrong with it, BUT:

Does anyone remember the clan full of new players who just fought each other for draws? They caused Jon to make it so draws didn't give exp or money to the person being attacked, which then forced this clan to disband. This seems very similar. Maybe it is a problem? Because then come Monday, the clannies attacking LA will get terrible rewards.

TheHatchetman April 7 2008 4:25 PM EDT

"it lowers the overall score of everyone which then takes about a month or two to level out again where it should be."

Should be? with a deadzone as large as it is, i think "should be" is a bit out of reach for the time being :P People have been finding ways to bring the score from the top down lower and throwing it out of whack for ages. For example, anyone above 900k MPR still getting 100% CB... they may only have a few on their list, but they are praying on those who beat and live in the deadzone... And every other day, someone in the deadzone is finding a way to beat someone higher... Funnels down and down... Not much in the way of ability to go up outside of the seven or so score added by beating a lower opponent :P

So yes, intentional score lowering *is* bad for those in and approaching the dead zone with their chars. So is being a lower char aiming higher while you have lower chars killing you... Basically, along with those intenionally dropping score, 9/10 decent NCBs are bad for the score ladder :P

QBOddBird April 7 2008 4:28 PM EDT

smallpau1, if you recall correctly, when we did that he cut draw rewards in half*
This thread is closed to new posts. However, you are welcome to reference it from a new thread; link this with the html <a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=002P8o">Artificial Score Reduction</a>