SoC versus Physical damage (in General)


AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] June 25 2008 6:15 PM EDT

I've got a couple of questions with regards tot he SoC absorbtion and some physical damage in CB.

1: If a SoC minion attacks with a Physical attack (and even deals more SoC damage), and the target has GA, the SoC minion will take Physical Damage in return. This GA Physical damage is reduced by AC. Is it also reduced and absorbed by a SoC?

2: The RBF now deals Physical damage (I assumed it was fire, like the SoD splash). Is this damage reduced and absorbed by a SoC?

Thanks! :D

QBRanger June 25 2008 6:35 PM EDT

about point 2:

With The Grid in front using a +28 (effective) SoC:

The Grid mistimed his attack at the pacifist
Microchips stumbled swinging at the pacifist
Cloudscape's blow was dodged by the pacifist
Prophecies takes damage from his own Decay (880)!
Prophecies's Decay hit the pacifist [193206]
The Grid burns from the flames surrounding the pacifist (367251)

The Grid regenerated 120,000 HP

The Grid pounded the pacifist with Death [2183603]
The Grid draws strength from his weapon! [436720]
Microchips swung wildly at the pacifist
Cloudscape stumbled swinging at the pacifist
Prophecies takes damage from his own Decay (842)!
Prophecies's Decay hit the pacifist [50598]
The Grid burns from the flames surrounding the pacifist (467404)

The Grid regenerated 120,000 HP

The Grid pulverized the pacifist with Death [1832012]
The Grid draws strength from his weapon! [158541]
The Grid cries "Death meet Head, Head meet Dea!"
The Grid burns from the flames surrounding the pacifist (403389)

The Grid regenerated 120,000 HP
R.I.P. the pacifist

So as you can see, the SoC does nothing vs the RBF.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] June 25 2008 6:40 PM EDT

:( Jon, is that intended? The RBF does do Physical Damage doesn't it? (And would be a nice way of slipping in something to deal with the unreturnable RBF damage, without really neutering it).

QBRanger June 25 2008 6:43 PM EDT

And point 1:
Again The Grid in front with the same shield of capacity:
Vs Reda Luu who is a tank with a bow and GA.

I put a MgS on my EC minion so I would actually take damage for that battle:

This is the first missile rounds after he hits me with arrows for 6 rounds:

{Xihar hit The Grid with A Behemoth's Imbued Longbow [74301]
Xihar shot The Grid with A Behemoth's Imbued Longbow [100949]
The Grid regenerated 120,000 HP

Xihar hit The Grid with A Behemoth's Imbued Longbow [101815]
Xero shot The Grid for no damage
The Grid regenerated 120,000 HP

Xihar shot The Grid with A Behemoth's Imbued Longbow [72845]
Xihar hit The Grid with A Behemoth's Imbued Longbow [102095]
Xero's shot ricocheted near The Grid
The Grid regenerated 120,000 HP

Xihar shot The Grid with A Behemoth's Imbued Longbow [101651]
Xihar hit The Grid with A Behemoth's Imbued Longbow [66088]
Xero undershot The Grid
The Grid regenerated 120,000 HP

Xihar shot The Grid with A Behemoth's Imbued Longbow [70861]
Xihar shot The Grid with A Behemoth's Imbued Longbow [72326]
Xero undershot The Grid
The Grid regenerated 120,000 HP

Xihar shot The Grid with A Behemoth's Imbued Longbow [83178]
Xihar shot The Grid with A Behemoth's Imbued Longbow [93514]
Xero overshot The Grid
The Grid regenerated 120,000 HP }

The Grid's shield flashes! [389,251]
The Grid crushed Xevious with Death [2949142]
The Grid draws strength from his weapon! [520676]
Xevious's Guardian Angel smote The Grid (96644)
The Grid pulverized Xevious with Death [1765894]
The Grid cries "Death meet Head, Head meet Dea!"
Microchips swung wildly at Xero
Cloudscape grazed Xero with Slice [96149]
Xero's Guardian Angel smote Cloudscape (9673)
Cloudscape scratched Xero with Slice [12032]
Xero's Guardian Angel smote Cloudscape (11992)
Prophecies takes damage from his own Decay (880)!
Prophecies's Decay hit Xihar [191011]
Xihar's Guardian Angel smote Prophecies (28295)
The Grid burns from the flames surrounding Xevious (116990)

As you can see, GA does not apply to the Shields special ability.

And yes, I changed the name of the bow he was using due to the spellchecker.

Zoglog[T] [big bucks] June 25 2008 6:46 PM EDT

As far as I was aware, the RBF damage was its own type of damage, neither physical nor magical.
The only change I noticed was that SoD damage wasn't working as physical damage.

QBRanger June 25 2008 6:49 PM EDT

GL,

I think Jon may have mistyped when he was discussing the RBF as being "physical damage".

It is a "new" type of damage, immune to AMF, MGS, GA, and EC.

Only Jon can confirm my suspicion that it is not really physical in nature.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] June 25 2008 7:00 PM EDT

Yeah, I assumed that the RBF had it's own type, but saw jon listed it as Physical in the changelog (I still think it would be a neat way to address the unreturnable nature of it's damage... Unless the So gets massively buffed! lol!)

But surely as AC reduces Physical GA damage by the full amount (base + enchantment) the SoC should do the same?

QBRanger June 25 2008 7:04 PM EDT

Perhaps the SoC's special ability is a special newer type of damage in the same realim as the RBF?

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] June 25 2008 7:16 PM EDT

Could be, but then it's increased by BL.

Plus the SoC should absorb the GA from the damage of the normal Physical hit that transfered the extra SoC damage anyway. :/
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