Name change Aisle 2 (in General)


QBRanger June 30 2008 10:04 PM EDT

Can we get the name of the new spell changed from Shocking Grasp to Lightning Bolt?

It is confusing and I have had some rather new players think they can dodge this spell. As it does say Grasp in the title.

Just a suggestion.

VivaPinata June 30 2008 10:07 PM EDT

You can't dodge it?? Why did I train evasion then? I demand a free retrain!

Reignmaker [Battle Royale] June 30 2008 10:08 PM EDT

If it was renamed to Lightning Bolt people would start saying you should be able to use it in ranged.

(CB1)logan666 [Jago] June 30 2008 10:16 PM EDT

You can't use Cone of Cold in range but it sounds like you should doesn't it? Just because it's a Lightning Bolt doesn't imply that it has a long range and I agree with Ranger in that Shocking Grasp will sound like it can be dodge by training evasion or DX by NUBs who don't know any better. Besides with a lightning bolt spell then you can have a lightning familiar which fits nicely with ice, fire, and steel(earth) familiars.

Reignmaker [Battle Royale] June 30 2008 10:24 PM EDT

Um, CoC doesn't have the word "ice" in it. And MM doesn't have the word "steel" in it. So a SG familiar could be called a lightning familiar regardless of what the spell name is.

VivaPinata June 30 2008 10:30 PM EDT

I like the name "Charged Bolt." That way, it sounds pretty undodgable and non-ranged. >_>

Daz June 30 2008 10:33 PM EDT

Well, if you want 'un-dodgable' and fitting with the spell, there's always "Heat armour".

But Daz, It does damage to minions without armour! Imagine that. Cooking someone hurts them. Huh.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] June 30 2008 10:50 PM EDT

I say the simple solution is to make it require dex to hit...

(CB1)logan666 [Jago] June 30 2008 10:58 PM EDT

Well if it did require DX to hit then that would stop all those "overpowered" people from complaining since you would need to split exp to use it properly.

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] June 30 2008 10:59 PM EDT

"I say the simple solution is to make it require dex to hit... "

how the heck would a dex requirement make the name less confusing to noobs?

just teasing ya nov! i had to say it after this though! : P

"I will seriously start asking for posts to be deleted if this thread gets derailed..."

Cube July 1 2008 12:37 AM EDT

If it requires dex, how much different is it from UC..

Last Gasp July 1 2008 12:40 AM EDT

How about all noobs grow a brain first and read the spell descriptions eh?

Daz July 1 2008 12:41 AM EDT

Logic?! Preposterous!

TheHatchetman July 1 2008 12:51 AM EDT

SG:
Angel of Death takes damage from his own Shocking Grasp (26222)!
Angel of Death touches so not GA [1241223]
so not GA's Guardian Angel smote Angel of Death (69094)
Angel of Death cries "Your Soul is Mine!!"

UC:
GrimReaper tapped not hard at all [102163]
not hard at all's Guardian Angel smote GrimReaper (12392)
GrimReaper tapped not hard at all [94879]
not hard at all's Guardian Angel smote GrimReaper (11807)
GrimReaper bruised not hard at all [91732]
not hard at all's Guardian Angel smote GrimReaper (11437)

ummm... this is actually a bad example seeing as both of them are at minimum power... :P the SG is hitting an enchanter with 0 base AC, but the UC is hitting a wall... and they said minion ordering would be difficult... HAH! :P

Angel of Death [Hell Blenders] July 1 2008 12:51 AM EDT

and you cant dodge lighting? like lighting strikes ppl that much

Colonel Custard July 1 2008 12:54 AM EDT

"then you can have a lightning familiar which fits nicely with ice, fire, and steel(earth) familiars." The 4th element is wind, logan. Actually, I think the 4th element may be fire, while wind is the 2nd? Either way, ice and steel aren't elements.

And when are we going to get a Psy-type and Fighting-Type DD spell?

I also don't think "Cone of Cold" sounds ranged (though didn't it used to fire in ranged, back in CB1?). It seems like I'm coming up behind you and stabbing you with a magical ice cream cone.

Blarg July 1 2008 1:08 AM EDT

Does it have chocolate sprinkles?

[RX3]Cotillion July 1 2008 1:19 AM EDT

How about an aura-ish attack? Kind of like the RoBF 'flames surrounding xx'. Maybe like Static Field?

If SG is ever required to use dex, it should have the opportunity of a multi-hit.

''I'm coming up behind you and stabbing you with a magical ice cream cone.''
Is it a rocket cone? That would give it an extended range. I guess everyone who uses CoC + HoC has a Rocket Cone. I've been craving one of those for a while now.

Reignmaker [Battle Royale] July 1 2008 1:33 AM EDT

Yeah. I agree. SG should be able to multi-hit if it requires DX. Honestly, if you make it that, SG would be super more powerful than it is. Get the mage to equip a ToA, then it has the ability to use a ranged weapon, then own you with SG multiple times.

Flamey July 1 2008 3:08 AM EDT

It sounds like you could dodge DB And MM too. I mean c'mon, "Missile" sounds like a projectile to me, not some magic spell.

Reignmaker [Battle Royale] July 1 2008 3:18 AM EDT

It's only called Magic Missile because the spell's named Magic Missile in D&D.
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