Can we get MTL back? (in General)

TheHatchetman July 6 2008 3:53 PM EDT

Once my eyes adjust from the old to the new inspect page, and then to the even newer one, I'm sure I will come to love it (don't dislike it now, just not totally used to it yet :P). Only issue I have is that MTL is now hidden again. 3 questions:

1) Was this an oversight?
2) Was this intentional?
3) Is it there, and am I just being the only idiot that doesn't see it?

QBsutekh137 July 6 2008 4:25 PM EDT

It was discussed, Jonathan left it off.

AdminNightStrike July 6 2008 4:46 PM EDT

The reason I put MTL in the inspect page to begin with is that it's the only way to really gauge your own growth verse someone else's, since it takes into account untrained XP. I think this needs to be returned.

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] July 6 2008 4:57 PM EDT

Yes and can we get all the other articles back... like score, pr and mpr

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] July 6 2008 5:05 PM EDT

Nvm I found it all in the summary

QBRanger July 6 2008 5:10 PM EDT

I would love to have it back visible to all.

TheHatchetman July 6 2008 5:12 PM EDT

hehe, and here I thought NS would be one of the few against having it displayable, as much as he likes hiding XP for surprises and whatnot :P Oh well, 'twas nice to have, but still not too difficult to figure out ^_^

QBRanger July 6 2008 5:12 PM EDT

<but still not too difficult to figure out


TheHatchetman July 6 2008 5:24 PM EDT

for us at the lower levels, just CM someone at a few levels and guess from in between there. I seriously doubt somebody's strategic planning will be dashed by a margin of error of 10k MTL or so :P

For you guys at the top, the only information you even try to hide is plans you have yet to enact, and even then, you guys, along with all of us in the mid to lower levels, usually have no problems discussing even the most intimate details of our strategies, no? If I were to CM you, LA, Mikel, or even some random newb fresh out of the tutorial, asking what the MTL is on a char, I'm sure the only chance I wouldn't get a reply was if that random newb never logged on again...

Decisions based on someone else's MTL are never "spur of the moment"-type ones. While it is nice to be able to get the info at the click of a mouse, it's still only a matter of a few strokes of a keyboard and waiting for a reply.

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] July 6 2008 6:33 PM EDT

aye, but i was tracking ftw, koy and igot's mtl to see how our growth was compared to ftw using the roe. i had data back to may first or so...gone now.

i would check it periodically, but within a small time frame. it would be problematic to do that with pm's and sometimes the results would not be from the same time any longer.

no big deal, i just quit watching it. i am trying to do it with mpr, but if any hoard xp, then my data will be off. i am, however, tracking it from a certain date and going forward, so when the xp is spent it should correct itself.

i was never really sure that mtl was the best stat for it anyways, but it kept me out of the bars!

Timberwolf July 6 2008 6:36 PM EDT

Perhaps it's already somewhere I've never noticed, but could we get BA regen rate placed on the train page as well? (or could someone point me to where it is at?)

QBRanger July 6 2008 6:37 PM EDT

You can see your BA regeneration rate on the "out of BA" page.

Timberwolf July 6 2008 6:52 PM EDT

Which would be why I've never seen/paid attention to it.
Thank you Ranger.

j'bob July 6 2008 7:32 PM EDT

Or Timber, if you don't often run out of ba (shame on you) click the "get more" and compare the amount you can buy (total for the day before buying any) and compare with the list in the wiki.

* When getting 10 BA per 20 minutes, you will get 240 BA to be available per day that you can buy.
* When getting 9 BA per 20 minutes, you will get 216 BA you can buy.
* When getting 8 BA per 20 minutes, you will get 192 BA you can buy.
* When getting 7 BA per 20 minutes, you will get 168 BA you can buy.
* When getting 6 BA per 20 minutes, you will get 144 BA you can buy.

Timberwolf July 6 2008 11:42 PM EDT

99% of the time I use all my BA, I've never paid much attention to the out of BA page apparently.
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