Is it just me or is Archery way over powered? (in General)

I've noticed that players who use archery do a crazy ammount of damage. Is there something that makes it better or something?

its just u

it's underpowered if anything...

Yeah ill go for underpowered as well, hopefully we will see some changes to that next month

I kina second underpowered.

this is totally crap... ranged damage is fine

It's probably that your strat isn't geared towards fighting archers.

Archers, hence the archery, usually equip Beleg's gloves, which boosts damage - that might be what you mean by 'crazy ammount of damage.'

It's so overpowered that 1 out of the top 20 use archery! Let's nerf ranged damage more.

moral of the story... add more X?

Let's see just HOW overpowered archery is... on the two largest single minion ELB users.


Vectoid MPB 1,322,430
Strength: 5,696,600
DMON BOW OF POWER [6x8600] (+157) - $113,757,092 named ELB

Occam's Razor MPB 1,134,025
Strength: 8,276,897
An Elven Long Bow [6x3859] (+0) - slightly over 30 mil CB$ and still growing

Those damages were dealt in *MELEE*, where bows fire only every OTHER round, and suffer a huge penalty to both DX and PTH.
The actual damage per hit dealt during ranged rounds is lower... you'd need a pair of +21 named BG to even come close (a pair of +16 already needs over 14 mil NW, so forget ever getting a pair of +21).

Also, forget about that kind of damage if you go with a Mageseeker - looking at Spirit Soaring or Sox Jr, you will notice quite pathetic damage levels in comparison.


If anything, it's quite underpowered.

Looking through the recent battles fought by GogetaSS4 it would appear that there are archery based teams he/she can't beat. But it's not the archery that is the reason for the 'crazy ammount of damage', it's the fact that those teams are a lot bigger in MPR than his/hers. They're probably hitting perfectly acceptable levels of damage (or lower than normal) for their size, which looks like 'crazy' amounts to somebody smaller.

Real moral of the story - look at all the pieces of the jigsaw puzzle before you come to your conclusions.

k well I was just noticing that they were doing large ammounts of damage. Also your right it's probably because I'm a mage team that they keep destroying me.

actually, when my FB was still doing 200-300k in range, I get hit for 500k x4 per round (quad hits), but it is really easy to negate, not to mention GA eats that quad hits. :P

Yeah, but when your FB much later on starts dealing over half a mil vs all targets in ranged (and closer to a mil in HoC enabled and melee) that's much better... not to mention stuff like 5+ mil damage vs single target CoC or SG ;)
It's all about how much exp you have sunk into the relevant things.

I remember you and me were pretty much on par, racing for the first FB to reach 5 mil or somesuch (you barely beat me to it)... converted to archer soon afterwards because I found SFBM to be not enough of a challenge (it was just too easy, to be honest).