Is it just me or is Archery way over powered? (in General)

Soul Eater November 28 2008 2:18 AM EST

I've noticed that players who use archery do a crazy ammount of damage. Is there something that makes it better or something?

BeAsT-MoDe November 28 2008 2:55 AM EST

its just u

three4thsforsaken November 28 2008 3:07 AM EST

it's underpowered if anything...

nemods November 28 2008 4:22 AM EST

Yeah ill go for underpowered as well, hopefully we will see some changes to that next month

BluBBen November 28 2008 6:53 AM EST

I kina second underpowered.

lostling November 28 2008 7:20 AM EST

this is totally crap... ranged damage is fine

Marlfox [Cult of the Valaraukar] November 28 2008 7:30 AM EST

It's probably that your strat isn't geared towards fighting archers.

Xiaz on Hiatus November 28 2008 7:35 AM EST

Archers, hence the archery, usually equip Beleg's gloves, which boosts damage - that might be what you mean by 'crazy ammount of damage.'

Windwalker November 28 2008 7:48 AM EST

It's so overpowered that 1 out of the top 20 use archery! Let's nerf ranged damage more.

lostling November 28 2008 7:58 AM EST

moral of the story... add more X?

Sickone November 28 2008 8:24 AM EST

Let's see just HOW overpowered archery is... on the two largest single minion ELB users.

Vectoid MPB 1,322,430
Strength: 5,696,600
DMON BOW OF POWER [6x8600] (+157) - $113,757,092 named ELB

Occam's Razor MPB 1,134,025
Strength: 8,276,897
An Elven Long Bow [6x3859] (+0) - slightly over 30 mil CB$ and still growing

Those damages were dealt in *MELEE*, where bows fire only every OTHER round, and suffer a huge penalty to both DX and PTH.
The actual damage per hit dealt during ranged rounds is lower... you'd need a pair of +21 named BG to even come close (a pair of +16 already needs over 14 mil NW, so forget ever getting a pair of +21).

Also, forget about that kind of damage if you go with a Mageseeker - looking at Spirit Soaring or Sox Jr, you will notice quite pathetic damage levels in comparison.

If anything, it's quite underpowered.

QBJohnnywas November 28 2008 8:32 AM EST

Looking through the recent battles fought by GogetaSS4 it would appear that there are archery based teams he/she can't beat. But it's not the archery that is the reason for the 'crazy ammount of damage', it's the fact that those teams are a lot bigger in MPR than his/hers. They're probably hitting perfectly acceptable levels of damage (or lower than normal) for their size, which looks like 'crazy' amounts to somebody smaller.

Real moral of the story - look at all the pieces of the jigsaw puzzle before you come to your conclusions.

Soul Eater November 28 2008 2:46 PM EST

k well I was just noticing that they were doing large ammounts of damage. Also your right it's probably because I'm a mage team that they keep destroying me.

Wizard'sFirstRule November 28 2008 2:59 PM EST

actually, when my FB was still doing 200-300k in range, I get hit for 500k x4 per round (quad hits), but it is really easy to negate, not to mention GA eats that quad hits. :P

Sickone November 28 2008 3:06 PM EST

Yeah, but when your FB much later on starts dealing over half a mil vs all targets in ranged (and closer to a mil in HoC enabled and melee) that's much better... not to mention stuff like 5+ mil damage vs single target CoC or SG ;)
It's all about how much exp you have sunk into the relevant things.

I remember you and me were pretty much on par, racing for the first FB to reach 5 mil or somesuch (you barely beat me to it)... converted to archer soon afterwards because I found SFBM to be not enough of a challenge (it was just too easy, to be honest).
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