MM and roe (in General)


Ancient Anubis January 12 2009 3:18 PM EST

would love to c ranged penalty removed for mm. This spell is considered pretty poor and i would like to c a damage boost but not by increasing its effect for example but by removing the ranged penalties from it.

Also how bout having the roe grow and having an extra ability.

First effect is exp focused on minion equipping it and the second is 1/3 of tat level is given to each minion in the form of hp which can't be dispelled

and yes please no comments bout me i know i have both these in my strat.

three4thsforsaken January 12 2009 3:42 PM EST

I agree that with the damage rescale and the increased number or rounds, the ranged reducs for MM and FB need to be rethought.

I understand the game is moving towards ranged, but as far as I can tell, these two spells gain very very little benefit from firing first.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] January 12 2009 3:46 PM EST

ranged damage penalties are unneeded at this point

iBananco [Blue Army] January 12 2009 8:48 PM EST

1/3 of tat level in free HP is amazingly powerful even for a regular tattoo.

Rawr January 12 2009 8:55 PM EST

Buffing MM and FB would also increase the value of EH, which (if I remember correctly) is easily replaced by MCM at the moment.

PearsonTritonRaveshaw January 12 2009 9:24 PM EST

The game does not revolve around your current strategy.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] January 12 2009 9:26 PM EST

the JKF gets 50% of level in HP...and a minion, and other stats

Something needs to be added to the RoE, it's far too specialized to be a supporter item.

Rawr January 12 2009 9:39 PM EST

"The game does not revolve around your current strategy."

Yes, because I'm the ONLY character using an EH.
And even if that was true, doesn't that kind of show it needs to be improved? Or more useful? It being a "rare" item, and all.

Solare January 12 2009 9:42 PM EST

I advocated this many times already. FB and MM (especially FB) need a boost to make them desirable and not worthless (as they are now, unless you double up on the spell). Jon wants the game to last more rounds, but I think the damage should be rescaled for FB or MM. Removing ranged penalties doesn't seem to be what Jon has in mind, however, if the damage were rescaled to match that, of say, Shocking Grasp (but without its special ability of course), it would make both spells much more viable, even with the ranged penalties.

The RoE needs some rescaling as well. I suggested some alterations a while back concerning character growth with respect to BA regen. I'm not sure the RoE should do anything more than yield more xp though; that would make it maybe too good.

three4thsforsaken January 12 2009 10:07 PM EST

I feel that the role of RoE should be solely based on xp. Giving it other effects along with exp concentration is a bit too much. Exp concentration is incredibly valuable in this game and shouldn't come easy.

PearsonTritonRaveshaw January 13 2009 4:52 AM EST

Rawr, my comment was aimed at the original poster and had nothing to do with you.

Ancient Anubis January 13 2009 5:16 AM EST

yeah and if u bother noticing i said don't bother bringing it up cause i've already stated i have both in my strat so stop wasting post space. Besides isn't every complaint or idea change made to help someones strat work better.

These are two areas that i believe seriously need to be looked at. MM and FB should not be affected by ranged penalties it ain't like a melee weapon or melee spell that should only work effectively when both opponents are fighting up close.

Also If roe was so great why is it hardly ever used any more because exp focus doesn't matter to anyone but strange people like my self. I will agree that 1/3 may be a bit high for the hp idea but the roe either needs to start granting extra exp like 10% half the original gain of the roe or grant something extra like say leadership, or maybe even if after wearing for a certain length of time (add a count down timer) like 6 months of wearing it with no break u get a free retrain of exp.

Brakke Bres [Ow man] January 13 2009 5:23 AM EST

"ranged damage penalties are unneeded at this point "

This I dunno, DD is pretty weak in ranged, but those big elbs pack a big punch. So its fine right now.

I rather feel that ranged is unneeded at this point.

PearsonTritonRaveshaw January 13 2009 5:34 AM EST

AA, I don't mind you choosing to have a very weak strategy. What I do mind, however, is how you come to the forums and request a boost to your strategy because it sucks. Just play the game the way it is. The game does not change for you.

Also, saying "and yes please no comments bout me i know i have both these in my strat" does not give you a free pass to demand that your current strategy be buffed.

kevlar January 13 2009 6:38 AM EST

part of the aid to FB would be to get rid of the ridiculous splash damage.

Ancient Anubis January 13 2009 6:41 AM EST

my thread i take that as my free pass :P All i say is if u don't like to c it improved say so and say why otherwise your comment doesn't really add anything to the discussion. This ain't a poll and attacking my choices does address my points.
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