bug with AoJ and Evasion (in General)


kronopolous March 17 2009 1:29 PM EDT

First of all I have noticed that my items do not seem to be giving their appropriate bonuses. I only have Eb's and BoM giving bonuses to dex and str respectively (ie no TG's or HoE)


My halidon after junctioning a +21 BoM and +22 Eb's has the exact same level for dex and str showing in the fight logs. Unequipping both items yields an approx dex/str level of 800k. When I equip the items both levels are at 1,041,008. Should my dex be higher given the extra 1% bonus.


Second of all I have trained an evasion with raw effect of 36 and effect of 39. Why when it is junctioned an in fight logs do I only receive 32 evasion on both minion and halidon? Encumberance is not a factor as I am well under the limit.

QBRanger March 17 2009 1:40 PM EDT

I am getting the bonuses to my HF for equipping a BoM and EB.

QBRanger March 17 2009 1:43 PM EDT

Ah, did not read the complete part out str/dex being the same.

That is strange indeed.

Steve G March 17 2009 1:50 PM EDT

i too am receiving less evasion then my enchanter actually has on my junctioned SF, im getting 17 evasion when i my base is 22 and effect is 21

Steve G March 17 2009 1:58 PM EDT

oh yes, the 17 effect is being given on both my SF and the actual enchanter

QBRanger March 17 2009 2:13 PM EDT

It is not just evasion.

I have a set of 101 DBs and I see a 100 effect on my HF and archer.

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] March 17 2009 2:41 PM EDT

for the dbs it has always been 1 less than the plus. At least it has always been so for me. whether I junction it or not.

Marlfox [Cult of the Valaraukar] March 17 2009 4:03 PM EDT

Hmm, that's odd. I also have +101 DBs, and I see 113 effect. Although, it's probably the AoI. ;)

BluBBen March 17 2009 4:04 PM EDT

Aren't the AoI supposed to add +20 to the DB?

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] March 17 2009 5:26 PM EDT

i will go ahead and add this as a possible bug on the known issues page.

kronopolous March 19 2009 9:53 AM EDT

hmmm so after looking at some other threads I think the problem with the evasion is that my minion doesn't have the amount of dex to go along with the evasion so there is a penalty of 40% or something. However...my halidon has the appropriate amount of dex so shouldn't it have no penalties and receive full effect of evasion?

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] March 19 2009 11:34 AM EDT

perhaps the aoj just brings over the final effect to your familiar rather than computing a new effect for that familiar based on its stats? in effect, your skill is on your minion and it gives a final effect of 32 for that minion therefore 32 is what comes over?

if that is the case though, then bloodlust at base for the minion should bring over a full effect for the familiar?

QBRanger March 19 2009 11:37 AM EDT

I sure hope that is not the intended way for skills/junction to work.

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] March 19 2009 11:48 AM EDT

hmm, i tried getting some damage numbers with about 119k in bloodlust, which should be about a quarter of what i need for max effect if based on familiar strength. then i untrained it and tried it with no bloodlust and finally with a base bloodlust which gives me the .75 effect on the minion but should be negligible on the familiar.

my min and max damage numbers against the same opponent and minion were identical throughout. i am not sure what that means at all though!
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