how to use ntfsfix on knoppix (in Off-topic)

Brakke Bres [Ow man] May 5 2009 7:34 AM EDT

anyone have a command line for it?

I want to check a HDD that Vista corrupted while in hibernation mode.

Knoppix can fix it but I can't seem to find the command line to do so.

Daz May 5 2009 7:48 AM EDT

Is it the primary Vista drive?
The NTFS format is slightly different for your C drive. If you do anything to it in anything other than vista, you'll kill it.

I think, if it is, that your best bet is to do a data recovery and start it from scratch.

If its not the C drive, then I don't know the command, sorry :)

Brakke Bres [Ow man] May 5 2009 8:04 AM EDT

too bad it is the primary vista drive.

I also hooked the HDD onto my desktop, after Vista did a chkdsk on it, I can read all the data on it. However placing the HDD back in the laptop, Vista won't boot on that.

Very strange, the only way I see the laptop from starting again is reinstalling Vista again.. Sigh...

Daz May 5 2009 8:14 AM EDT

There might be something else that can be done to fix it. I'll look around when I'm not so busy :)

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] May 5 2009 9:43 AM EDT

I could swear I've done repairs to NTFS on Vista machines from boot disks...

AdminShade May 5 2009 10:30 AM EDT

Why did you even put Vista in hibernation mode. :'(

Daz May 5 2009 11:25 AM EDT

QBnovice 9:43 AM EDT
I could swear I've done repairs to NTFS on Vista machines from boot disks...

Was it the partition that it was installed to?

I just know that making adjustments to them is bad. Changing the size is a definite one because of the minor differences between the two types of NTFS.
Maybe it could be okay for just a repair.

I actually had a linux install count my Vista partition as unallocated. It couldn't even see it!

AdminTal Destra May 5 2009 11:29 AM EDT

speaking of partitions, i had ubuntu installed on a 2nd partition on my hard drive, is there a way to put them back together without a complete reformat?

Thak May 5 2009 11:42 AM EDT

Ok, you cant boot from any drive on a windows systems unless the drive/partition is set to active. If you do not have your drive or partition set to active it will not boot from there.

chkdsk = to run checkdisk
chkdsk /f/r = to run chkdsk and fix and repair/recover bad sectors
driverquery = to query all drivers
Recover = to recover readable information from a bad or defective disk.

Thak May 5 2009 11:50 AM EDT

Tal are you using a vista OS?

If you are you can only expand volumes you can't shrink them. You have to be a bit tricky by to shrink the partion back into one. To do so you have to copy any data you dont want to lose, unallocate then delete forgot wich order off the top of my head then expand the one partition to eat up all the unallocated space effectivly merging the 2 partitions together. But you can never put it back to the original state of just one none partitioned drive unless you reformat.

Thak May 5 2009 11:55 AM EDT

Oh and another thing Tal on vista you can only move to the right you cant go left. so say you have drives c partioned to create drive d and e. You can only take drive d to eat up e you cant unallocated d and have e use the space.
Hope that makes sense to you if not CM me Tal and i will help you out more when i get back

AdminTal Destra May 5 2009 12:01 PM EDT

im on XP pro btw

Thak May 5 2009 2:05 PM EDT

Tal your best and easiest bet is to spend the money on the software Partition Magic 8.0

Since you are using XP you can probably find and older version for cheaper if not free googling. I am using 6.0

Or you can try this method, partition using XP disc I have never tried this method so i dont know how well it works.

Since you have XP Pro you can go Run-MMC-File-Add/Remove Snap In-Disk Management and play with your partitions in a window environment if you know what you are doing.

Always back up your data before doing anything with partions and if you aren't to savy with partitions i highly suggest going with partition magic listed above it makes it much more simplified and you can shrink and expand to your hearts content with it.

Cube May 5 2009 2:07 PM EDT

Vista can shrink volumes - just not well.

I agree with Daz though; it's what I'd do.

Cube May 5 2009 2:08 PM EDT

Oh, and I think that program Thak suggested Partition Magic has a free trial, you don't have to pay for it if you aren't doing anything fancy.

Brakke Bres [Ow man] May 5 2009 2:29 PM EDT

I'll try some of these methods if all fails, I can always reinstall Vista again.

Ow Shade, the laptop goes automatically into hibernation mode if not used in a while. At least I could save my files :)
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