Wierd dex affect (in General)


miteke [Superheros] May 8 2009 4:07 PM EDT

My character Law is fighting Single Minion.

Why is my dex halved some times? The only affects I see him tossing are Ablative Shield and Cone of Cold. No EC, no AxBow, nada.

Regular battle Post-battle stats
Justice Hal Order
Strength 14 3,262,765 6,451,901
Dexterity 11 2,372,920 2,793,886

Abnormal battle Post-battle stats
Justice Hal Order
Strength 14 3,262,765 6,451,901
Dexterity 11 949,168 1,117,554

Is it something I'm missing or is this a bug (perhaps with the AoJ)? It only happens about one in 10 times which is why I suspect the AoJ!

QBRanger May 8 2009 4:12 PM EDT

When you make it to melee rounds, only using a bow, you get -60% dex. You also get -60 PTH.

However only the dex part shows up on the battle report. The PTh does not.

So when you beat him in 6 rounds, you see your full dex.

When you beat him in 7 or more rounds, or lose in 7 or more, you see the melee dex.

miteke [Superheros] May 8 2009 4:18 PM EDT

I'm also seeing weird results Against B Ark, but they are consistent and occur every battle.

Post-battle stats
Justice Hal Order
Encumbrance 0.43
Strength -1,304,568 965,913 4,155,049
Dexterity -1,304,571 76,068 497,034

Play-by-play
B Ark
Number One cast Dispel Magic on all enemy Minions (2,000,000)
Number Two cast Ethereal Chains on all enemy Minions (2296852)
A Telephone Sanitizer found no valid targets on which to cast Antimagic Field
A Telephone Sanitizer cast Vampiric Aura on the Captain (?)
Number One cast Ablative Shield on all friendly Minions (2637419)

Law cast no spells and B Ark did nothing in combat except die.

So why is the dex so low? By my calcs the Dex should have been lowered by a lot less. Why so low? Is the deduction from EC done before the Elven Boots? But even if that were the case Orders natural dex is over 2M and should not be reduced to 500K.

I am a bit confused here. Any ideas?

miteke [Superheros] May 8 2009 4:19 PM EDT

Even if you beat him on round 6 in ranged?

miteke [Superheros] May 8 2009 4:21 PM EDT

And even with the melee reduction how do I go from a 2.3M dex to 70K with a 2.3M EC affect on me?

QBRanger May 8 2009 4:26 PM EDT

Ok, I am confused a bit.

Who gets their dex lowered to 70k? It looks to me like the HF, which is what is left after BArks EC get ahold of the HF.

Your tank has some ENC problems, lowering its dex and str by a bit it seems also.

QBRanger May 8 2009 4:29 PM EDT

Tanks dex: 2,793,886 minus his EC (2296852) = 497,034.

Which is what I see on your post.

The ENC issue is your first minion, sry about that.

miteke [Superheros] May 8 2009 5:39 PM EDT

That makes more sense. So Justice's should have a much lower dex but the reduction is affected by encumbrance.Still weird, but not the way I thought.

Well that about covers it.

QBRanger May 8 2009 6:06 PM EDT

Yes. It is a bug when EC puts you into negatives with ENC overload.

Seems to take the absolute value and adds it.

In any event it does not effect gameplay as negatives in str or dex is treated as 1.

miteke [Superheros] May 8 2009 11:00 PM EDT

Right, It just confused me and led me to think that the EC affect was much lower.
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