BoM question (in General)


Mesoshort May 18 2009 10:27 AM EDT

I was reading about it, and does the two handed penalty apply to me? I have a bow equipped and I heard that it counts as a two handed weapon. If so, should I equip my MoD to avoid the penalty while still having the bow equipped? The shield is currently at +22, so would it be worth the dex loss for the strength gain as an archer? Is it only in melee rounds or all rounds? So many questions! <3

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] May 18 2009 10:39 AM EDT

from the wiki:

"The two types of melee weapons are 1-handed and 2-handed weapons. 2-handed weapons are generally more damaging, but when used with a shield the minion will suffer additional DX penalties. 1-handed weapons do suffer a smaller penalty when used with a shield. As of the Changelog of March/April 2008, the one round penalty no longer applies when switching from a ranged weapon to a 1-handed weapon."

1 or 2 handedness only applies to melee weapons.

Colonel Custard [SeeD] May 18 2009 10:41 AM EDT

"Strength: 537,610
Dexterity: 972,302"

It looks to me like, in terms of net levels, the BoM 2-h penalty would take away as much as it would add. It would be the same as untraining 115k DX and putting it into ST, kinda.

I think the penalty to DX is worth it, probably. Your Hal won't have trouble hitting anyway, and your main archer will only have trouble hitting tanks/high-DX minions. In general, DX is the less important intrinsic stat, since the most it can do is add one hit.

QBJohnnywas May 18 2009 10:51 AM EDT

Hmm. I've just checked and triple checked, and I'm suffering no dex penalty in melee for equipping a BoM with a Morg. None at all.

Mesoshort May 18 2009 10:54 AM EDT

So I do not have to worry about the penalty and I should keep my bow equipped? =P Thanks guys

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] May 18 2009 11:02 AM EDT

jw, it should be 12 percent dex penalty, that would be noticeable for sure!

QBJohnnywas May 18 2009 11:29 AM EDT

Definitely no penalty, not on my equip page or on my post battle page.

AdminShade May 18 2009 11:43 AM EDT

BoM + Bows / Xbows / Sling = no penalty.

Only way to see the DX penalty is to be in combat in melee rounds while using a melee 2 handed weapon.

Mesoshort May 18 2009 11:46 AM EDT

Thank you Shade -huggies- <3

AdminShade May 18 2009 11:56 AM EDT

On the other hand I know the original DX penalties were based on the DX penalty for 1 handed melee weapons.

Since that penalty now is 0%, you also don't have a penalty. There used to be a relationship in between them.

I think I used to have such a reference on cbstuff.nl but forgot where it is located...

AdminNightStrike May 20 2009 2:10 AM EDT

There is a penalty for shields + 2h melee weapons.

Most shields give a DX penalty. The penalty is increased by 12% when combined with a 2H weapon. There were two shields that did not give any DX penalty when used with a 1H weapon, and so CB forgot to add 12% to zero to get a 12% penalty for using it with a 2H weapon. I fixed that recently.

Bows are not melee weapons.
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