Best Way To Upgrade an Enforcer's Crossbow? (in General)

QBsutekh137 June 14 2009 10:21 AM EDT

Hey all,

I got an exbow as a random drop and figured I might as well use it... I checked out the top exbows, looking for a good recipe on upgrading x vs. +. I am under the impression that for the STR drain (my primary concern), I should simply pump + and enough x to do damage. Judging by how much x the big exbow's have, though, my impression must be wrong.

So, if all I am interested in is STR drain, what is the best way to upgrade an exbow? How does PL enter into all of this these days (sorry, I haven't ben keeping track of changelogs, etc., since tank-related stuff usually doesn't affect me much...)

Thanks in advance to any advice folks can offer me!

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] June 14 2009 10:24 AM EDT

Well, if all you want to do is abuse the exbow to its utmost then I would suggest upgrading the + to 100 to get you a hit in vs most tanks with no evasion as you have no tank yourself. After that you need to get the x up as high as you can or up to about 4000 once there if you want to pump it any more just add to the + side.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] June 14 2009 10:38 AM EDT

+116 (to deal with early penalties)
and then keep pumping X (stopping at the previously mentioned magic point)

QBsutekh137 June 14 2009 10:50 AM EDT

Thanks, guys! Sounds good! Time to go cringe at the + upgrade curve on thw wiki page. *smile*

And yes, I realize this is taking advantage of something that certainly seems a bit imbalanced. In fact, having to at least try the "can't beat 'em, join 'em" angle on this is even more proof positive that the exbow needs a tweak... I always see that as one of the primary signs of imbalance, at least to some degree...

QBRanger June 14 2009 10:57 AM EDT

There is no way to properly "use" the exbow.

There is a proper way to abuse it though.

Pump up the x to about 3.5k.

Then pump up the + to at least 116 like novice stated and then add more as needed.

PL will help vs the exbow until the PL minion has a negative strength. Then the PL ability for strength protection is gone. The damage factor still gets PL.

I would have thought that after 2+ years the exbow would have found its way to the nerfage bin, however, I am seriously doubting anything will be done about it.

As to the if you cannot beat them, join them type of thinking, that is real nice. I did that with the VB and got my butt handed to me when it got its proper nerfage.

Now I can only hope that the exbow gets its. But as I stated, it appears to be a stable part of CB, like it or not.

Half of changemonth already gone and nothing, I mean NOTHING has been done about an item that obviously is so stupid in its play.

QBOddBird June 14 2009 11:28 AM EDT

Heh, I don't blame ya sut, but do keep in mind the VB reference Ranger don't want to pump it too high and then see it nerfed, and lose your investment. =\

QBsutekh137 June 14 2009 11:30 AM EDT

Oh don't worry, I don't have enough cash to get it THAT high, and right now I don't even need the abusive part -- just need to tweak down some of the Hal and Jig teams I fight to hopefully maintain my fightlist... Can't train EC, so need to try out a specialty xbow instead.

Hopefully I can get it high enough so that Murphy's law gets it nerfed, though! *smile* I would be fine with that!

QBRanger June 14 2009 1:29 PM EDT


Looking at those characters that beat you, you would need to get that exbow up mighty high in both x and + to do anything.

The only tanks that get you are Dude, NS and myself it seems.

With NS and Dude using UC with its evasion you need to get that + well over 175 or higher to hit them one time.

Vs me, you need to get it over 100, and then I can use my DBs to stop any progress you will make.

I think on your character, the exbow is not useful. If you were losing to a lot of tanks and had less MPR, it is a very abusive item to let you fight up much higher.

Unfortunately for you, there is not much higher.

I just wish this abusive item would be fixed soon. Seems it is more important to add a lottery than fix actually gameplay/balance issues.

Lord Bob June 14 2009 1:59 PM EDT

100% Strength drain is around x3333. If all you want is that 100% drain, there's your number.
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