QBsutekh137
June 14 2009 10:21 AM EDT
Hey all,
I got an exbow as a random drop and figured I might as well use it... I checked out the top exbows, looking for a good recipe on upgrading x vs. +. I am under the impression that for the STR drain (my primary concern), I should simply pump + and enough x to do damage. Judging by how much x the big exbow's have, though, my impression must be wrong.
So, if all I am interested in is STR drain, what is the best way to upgrade an exbow? How does PL enter into all of this these days (sorry, I haven't ben keeping track of changelogs, etc., since tank-related stuff usually doesn't affect me much...)
Thanks in advance to any advice folks can offer me!
Well, if all you want to do is abuse the exbow to its utmost then I would suggest upgrading the + to 100 to get you a hit in vs most tanks with no evasion as you have no tank yourself. After that you need to get the x up as high as you can or up to about 4000 once there if you want to pump it any more just add to the + side.
+116 (to deal with early penalties)
and then keep pumping X (stopping at the previously mentioned magic point)
QBsutekh137
June 14 2009 10:50 AM EDT
Thanks, guys! Sounds good! Time to go cringe at the + upgrade curve on thw wiki page. *smile*
And yes, I realize this is taking advantage of something that certainly seems a bit imbalanced. In fact, having to at least try the "can't beat 'em, join 'em" angle on this is even more proof positive that the exbow needs a tweak... I always see that as one of the primary signs of imbalance, at least to some degree...
QBRanger
June 14 2009 10:57 AM EDT
There is no way to properly "use" the exbow.
There is a proper way to abuse it though.
Pump up the x to about 3.5k.
Then pump up the + to at least 116 like novice stated and then add more as needed.
PL will help vs the exbow until the PL minion has a negative strength. Then the PL ability for strength protection is gone. The damage factor still gets PL.
I would have thought that after 2+ years the exbow would have found its way to the nerfage bin, however, I am seriously doubting anything will be done about it.
As to the if you cannot beat them, join them type of thinking, that is real nice. I did that with the VB and got my butt handed to me when it got its proper nerfage.
Now I can only hope that the exbow gets its. But as I stated, it appears to be a stable part of CB, like it or not.
Half of changemonth already gone and nothing, I mean NOTHING has been done about an item that obviously is so stupid in its play.
QBOddBird
June 14 2009 11:28 AM EDT
Heh, I don't blame ya sut, but do keep in mind the VB reference Ranger made...you don't want to pump it too high and then see it nerfed, and lose your investment. =\
QBsutekh137
June 14 2009 11:30 AM EDT
Oh don't worry, I don't have enough cash to get it THAT high, and right now I don't even need the abusive part -- just need to tweak down some of the Hal and Jig teams I fight to hopefully maintain my fightlist... Can't train EC, so need to try out a specialty xbow instead.
Hopefully I can get it high enough so that Murphy's law gets it nerfed, though! *smile* I would be fine with that!
QBRanger
June 14 2009 1:29 PM EDT
Sut,
Looking at those characters that beat you, you would need to get that exbow up mighty high in both x and + to do anything.
The only tanks that get you are Dude, NS and myself it seems.
With NS and Dude using UC with its evasion you need to get that + well over 175 or higher to hit them one time.
Vs me, you need to get it over 100, and then I can use my DBs to stop any progress you will make.
I think on your character, the exbow is not useful. If you were losing to a lot of tanks and had less MPR, it is a very abusive item to let you fight up much higher.
Unfortunately for you, there is not much higher.
I just wish this abusive item would be fixed soon. Seems it is more important to add a lottery than fix actually gameplay/balance issues.
Lord Bob
June 14 2009 1:59 PM EDT
100% Strength drain is around x3333. If all you want is that 100% drain, there's your number.
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