Ranger, lets argue! (in Debates)

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- June 14 2009 3:16 PM EDT

About anything really, you just seem to be the only person who consistently sticks to their guns. You pick the topic, and regardless of my "real" stance on it, I will win you over to the dark side.



P.S. If you're not Ranger, please try to keep comments to CM and keep this easy to read for viewing pleasure haha.

(Yes, I'm bored this morning.)

QBRanger June 14 2009 3:18 PM EDT

Pick something in Sports, Poker or Medicine.

Stay away from Politics, and Religion as these have been done to death. And I do not want to read another skewed Obama lover again.

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- June 14 2009 3:57 PM EDT

Hmm I would have to say poker or sports, I don't know that much about medicine, only that I once had a $900 dog-bite. Apparently it costs $900 to clean and dress a wound. Ahh ignorance is bliss, I could have paid myself 890$ to do it myself, the $10 of course being liberal with the cost of the gauze.

If you want to argue poker, it will be tough, as a child of the game I think we will agree 10/10 times... which should be fine as I can still argue a dummies point, but we both know that wouldn't hold much water as the only real dummy argument would be, "but it was suited" or, "I had a feeling"...

To which the only real answers would be, "You're an idiot." and, "Go play the lotto next time you have gas".

How about electronics? or video games?

Video games would be a fun topic.

QBRanger June 14 2009 4:32 PM EDT

Lebron vs Kobe?

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- June 14 2009 7:59 PM EDT

I'll let you know after game 4 is over ^.-

QBRanger June 14 2009 8:10 PM EDT

Game 4 has been over for a couple days now.

Game 5 is about to start in 1 hour.

mexitl June 14 2009 8:34 PM EDT

that has to be the quickest "debate over" ever οΎ…

Flamey June 14 2009 8:46 PM EDT

Euthanasia.. GO!

Rawr June 14 2009 9:19 PM EDT

this may be political but I feel its medicine.

So I have friends that take the SAT and are given extended time due to ADD, ADHD, whatever.

I feel this is complete crap.

Why? Because why should they be given extra time? If they have an attention disorder, they have medicine for it, right? So if they are using the medicine while testing, they should be given the same amount of time as everyone else. Otherwise if they are given extended time, they shouldn't be "taking" the pill at the test. In other words, I think those given extended time for ADD/ADHD or whatever are given unfair advantage.

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- June 14 2009 9:19 PM EDT

Typo. haha, no spoilers it's on the dvr, can't watch it for another hour or so.

mexitl June 15 2009 12:08 AM EDT

Not a typo. This forum software apparently doesn't render the ellipsis correctly (option + semi-colon on the mac).

Colonel Custard June 15 2009 12:17 AM EDT


Rawr, I think I agree with you. The SAT's too easy to leave enough time to work out the answer to every single question. Otherwise, it's not a fair comparison to other students who were not able to complete the entire section before time is up.

Oh, and I have A.D.D. So if normal people usually are able to complete all sections in the allotted time, I guess my experience makes me disagree with Rawr.

I'm also still wondering what's going on in this thread, though, as implied in the first word of my post.

Flamey June 15 2009 2:59 AM EDT

Kids with ADD and ADHD in Australia aren't given an advantage. My friend with ADHD takes his pills and is one of the brightest people I know.

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- June 15 2009 3:35 PM EDT

My best friend is ADHD or ADD or whichever, and is the smartest person I know. That being said, this thread is being derailed. If you're not RANGER, stay outa my thread :(.

Lakers win so I guess Kobe>, but considering they play two different positions, it would be like comparing Shaq and Jordan.


QBRanger June 15 2009 3:36 PM EDT


I would say LeBron is a far superior player even without any rings. If you take Kobe, lets rock!

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- June 15 2009 3:55 PM EDT

Well, the rings have to be argument one, while Kobe and Shaq led the Lakers to three consecutive NBA championships, King James has yet to achieve one. While you could argue that that's a team effort, a team is only as good as it's leader.

Lebron might be the "new hotness" but Kobe is a franchise leader in scoring, having the #2 record for the most points scored in a single game. Which happens to be as many points as most teams score in a game as a whole.

Since his second year in the league, Bryant has started in every NBA All-Star Game that has been hosted, including winning the All-Star MVP award in 2002, 2007, and 2009.

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- June 15 2009 4:02 PM EDT

Comparing Lebron to Kobe, is like comparing Lindgren to Hellmuth.

Or even Lindgren to Ivey.

(Erick having never won a bracelet. For what it's worth I've played with Erick at home games as he has family in my area and visits frequently, and while I would say from experience he is one hell of a player, I STILL wouldn't compare him to Hellmuth. The same goes for Lebron.)

I watch a lot more poker than basketball, but it's very similar at the end of the day. 11 bracelets, vs 0. 4 championship rings vs 0.

QBRanger June 15 2009 4:50 PM EDT

Well Hellmuth has played in many more events than Lindgrin.

Lingrin is a far better cash player. Hellmuth never plays cash games, as he knows his style is ill suited for that type of play.

But look at the talent Kobe has vs Lebron.

Gasol, Fisher, Bynum, Ariza, Odom vs the slugs Lebron had.

Game 5 vs Orlando for Lebron showed just how good he is. They gave him the ball at the top of the key and let him go 1 on 5. And he accounted for 31 of the last 32 Cav points.

Put Lebron on the Lakers and they likely would not have lost 1 game the entire playoffs.

He is bigger and much more physical than Kobe. He scored more, had more assists, and more rebounds per game than Kobe with far less talent.

While Kobe is a guard, Lebron can play any of the 5 positions. Well 4 if you count out true center.

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- June 16 2009 2:12 PM EDT

If Lebron joined the lakers, there would be no real need to watch the regular season or playoffs we all know the lakers would make the finals no problem.

I thought Hellmuth plays lots of cash games, I've seen him on high-stakes poker many many times, read about him playing the NL tables plenty via card player, he even writes articles for card player about cash games he is in.


Dark Dreky June 16 2009 2:18 PM EDT

Kobe vs. LeBron... tough!

I have to go with LeBron. LeBron is big enough to be the "big guy" and fast enough to be the "fast guy". He can do it all, and he can make it look easy while he does.

Kobe is nasty. There is no denying that. You can't deny 40 points in an NBA finals game. Cannot. He wanted it more this year than any other year, and he made it happen. However, after 2010 (iirc) when LeBron is a free agent, it almost guaranteed the next big spender to pick him up will get a few championships out of him!!

I vote LeBron.

And on a side note for baseball fans, check out 16 year-old Bryce Harper; baseball's "LeBron James".

QBRanger June 16 2009 2:51 PM EDT

I have never seen Hellmuth on High Stakes Poker.

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- June 16 2009 2:54 PM EDT

Youtube Hellmuth blowups, I would find it for you if I wasn't at home. He got all butt-hurt because another player was talking while he was thinking or something, freaked out, and possibly hasn't been back since. It was funny to watch.

(Errr it might have been poker after dark I'm thinking about, but hellmuth blows up so often it could easily be both)
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