j/w, Whats a good president to you...? (in Off-topic)
what would a president have to do to be a good president?
im just curious, i'm naive in many ways. :p
July 2 2009 1:45 AM EDT
A good president in my eyes would have to:
1. Be a honest person
2. Lower taxes substantially (especially on the wealthy, majority of them have earned it)
3. Reduce gov't spending (stop the world police crap, reduce welfare cause it is abused in 9 out of 10 cases)
4. Try and work deals out with businesses so they stay in the U.S. (which would drop the unemployment rate)
5. Reduce the Federal governments power and give more power to the state just as the constitution states
6. Crack down on all of the corruption that is going on
7. Work on being more energy efficient cause this is gonna be a big problem in the near future with the rapid population growth
8. Give the citizens more rights instead of listening and watching each and everyone one of us
9. Rework the judicial system in making trials more speedy. People are on death row way too long. It is a waste of tax dollars.
10. And the best attribute in being a great president is be like.......... Ronald Reagan!!!!
July 2 2009 1:50 AM EDT
Clone Ronald Reagan
July 2 2009 1:58 AM EDT
"3. ...reduce welfare cause it is abused in 9 out of 10 cases)"
what a stupid comment
July 2 2009 3:22 AM EDT
I agree Loch. Not that I am on welfare but sometimes people are just unable to find work. I know because it took me 3 years to find a job and the job I got is super crappy.
July 2 2009 3:25 AM EDT
"Clone Ronald Reagan"
What a stupid comment.
Clone FDR and recreate the goodwill and trust that America had in its president.
If FDR was president today and tried to push through the New Deal, he would be called a socialist who was wrecking America and what it stood for. And yet, somewhere between the New Deal and World War II, the economy was fixed beyond belief.
good president = help me make money hahaha. (e.i lower tax, create jobs, wherever matters to ME most)
: Clone FDR and recreate the goodwill and trust that America had in its president.
-Goodwill and trust can take you all sorts of places, both good and bad.
If FDR was president today and tried to push through the New Deal, he would be called a socialist who was wrecking America and what it stood for.
-Considering how FDR greatly expanded not only the size of the federal government, but also the power it wielded, he's not exactly the paragon of free-market principles. He tried to institute price controls and production limits, attempted to expand the Supreme Court to eliminate judicial and legal opposition to his programs and backed a slew of other laws that hobbled the economic recovery of the United States. A socialist, no; an enemy to the Constitution and to the free market, hell yes.
And yet, somewhere between the New Deal and World War II, the economy was fixed beyond belief.
-Incorrect. The economy never really recovered until the after both the end of the war and the mini-recession that followed the drastic cutbacks in military spending.
IDK, a lot of welfare seems like a waste for me. I work at a store that sells groceries, and it never ceases to amaze me how bad food stamps are abused. I would venture a guess, in the mid-sized city I work in, that 50% of all groceries are bought with food stamps. And of the people that use this form of welfare, 90% of it goes towards pop, potato chips, and as many steaks as they can stack in their cart. People come through with $400+ of junk food that is all paid for by the tax payer.
Now don't get me wrong, some programs like WIC work great and specify what healthy choices people can get. But generic cash on a card is an example of terrible government welfare. I would venture a guess they could reduce food stamps by 70% and still these people would eat more and better than most of the rest of us.
July 2 2009 4:08 AM EDT
A good president has a winning smile.
A good president lacks a distinct accent, because it's distracting.
A good president ought to be able to appear productive while doing absolutely nothing. This is very important while in office, especially.
A good president needs to have mastered all logical fallacies, and apply them in dialogue as often as possible.
A good president is evasive when asked about things, points fingers when pressed about the same things, and declares war when they can't project the blame successfully.
A good president also has a great campaign platform, hopefully one that needles the opposition. For example, a great liberal slogan would be, like, "Hope and Change", or something like that.
July 2 2009 4:25 AM EDT
"I would venture a guess they could reduce food stamps by 70% and still these people would eat more and better than most of the rest of us."
Well if you could do that, then I gotta venture a guess that people in the US eat pretty bad to begin with.
Clone Theodore Roosevelt!
July 2 2009 8:31 AM EDT
the new deal didn't fix the economy
July 2 2009 9:31 AM EDT
July 2 2009 1:02 PM EDT
We need George Washington back.
July 2 2009 1:17 PM EDT
A great president will be:
Make decisions based on facts and science, not religion.
Respect both freedom and privacy.
Use our military responsibly, and focus on diplomatic solutions.
Work for the people, not the rich, lobbyists, or large business.
Clean out corruption in Washington and streamline government.
This is not Ronald crappy Reagan.
July 2 2009 1:49 PM EDT
Socially liberal, let people enjoy the freedoms they and their ancestors fought for.
Let the marketplace dicatate the economies.
Not letting government take over all aspects of our life.
Let people benefit from their success and not tax them till there is no desire to succeed.
Use diplomacy, but know when diplomacy is useless and act when needed. Know when your dealing with zealots and respond in kind.
Streamline government and not make it bigger, all-inclusive or all-intrusive.
Stand up to bullies in the world. Do not let zealots get nuclear weapons.
Respect facts and not hoaxes.
Do not have "the sky is falling" attitude every news conference. Have pride in being American.
Do not lie to the American people. Or even the world. There will be times when the information you have is wrong. But do not be afraid to admit that.
With few exceptions, Ronald Reagan was a near perfect president. However, he did let his religious feelings influence some decisions. But no president is perfect. He was just the best in my generation.
July 2 2009 1:51 PM EDT
O, and to complete a recent chat I just saw from a few days ago.
I would want a president that will fix the exbow!!!!
July 2 2009 1:58 PM EDT
Hm, when Ronald Reagan was president, 2nd and 3rd generation farmers were offing themselves (and sometimes their families) due to a terrible farm crisis.
Not a fond memory.
Not sure why people think Ronald Reagan was a such a great President. he didn't turn the economy around in the 80s any more than Clinton made it boom further in the 90s. The economy does what it wants.
But back on-topic, there is really nothing a president can do to be "good" in my book, because I believe most things happen without the President having any influence. For day-to-day behavior anyway. I just want to make sure a right-wing nut doesn't get to appoint 2 or 3 Supreme Court justices and that the President just stays out of my personal life. That's really all I would ask for. The rest of the world will keep doing what the rest of the world is going to do anyway.
"I just want to make sure a right-wing nut doesn't get to appoint 2 or 3 Supreme Court justices" I'm actually scared that any single person has the power to do this, now. I'm sure I'd feel differently, though, if I thought our president were an exceptionally wise man.
I agree with pretty much all that was said by IA, BadFish, Ranger, and LB, except in the case where the latter promotes economic liberalism. Utopian Socialism is the only kind of socialism that I like, and America is far from Utopia.
Oh, and let's clone Beethoven, and give him a shot at the Presidency, since we actually have preserved genetic material of his, and not of any others mentioned, I don't believe.
Or, we could bring back Jefferson, so that he can finally get the joke his buddy sent him in code: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124648494429082661.html?mod=yhoofront
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