Melee Bonus to-Hit 425 (in General)


QBRanger October 9 2009 3:27 PM EDT

Equipping a base dagger on my archer using a ToA.

QBRanger October 9 2009 3:28 PM EDT

Melee Bonus to-Hit 306

With a base mace.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] October 9 2009 5:32 PM EDT

very cool... never realized that the dagger and ToA would work like that... I'd love to see touch spells delivered with high PTH low base damage weapons

Adminedyit October 9 2009 5:35 PM EDT

does the ToA add any PTH to UC?

QBRanger October 9 2009 5:54 PM EDT

Edy,

I do not think so. The PTH of UC is based upon its level and not any NW effects.

I have not tried it though.

QBRanger October 9 2009 5:58 PM EDT

168 with a base Katana.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] October 9 2009 6:25 PM EDT

o_O

So the NW of the ToA is converted into PTH based on the upgrade curve of the weapon you use. That's great to know!

But I thought Daggers would have a crappy upgrade curve. They shouldn't be anywhere near the top 4?

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] October 9 2009 6:26 PM EDT

Well over the top 4, apparently they are a special case (or alternatively smaller base == lower plus cost)

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] October 9 2009 6:26 PM EDT

The ToA should add to UC's PTH. But if it's PTH is based n weapon, and not it's own curve, then it could be working badly with it.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] October 9 2009 6:27 PM EDT

So a base top 4 weapon would have higher PTH than the dagger?

Or does the dagger have the best PTH curve in CB?

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] October 9 2009 6:27 PM EDT

A Dagger [4x1111] (+200) owned by QBRanger (Heroes)

I don't think the NW on this puppy is over 10m

Tyriel [123456789] October 9 2009 6:28 PM EDT

"But I thought Daggers would have a crappy upgrade curve."

The 'lower' items are weird like that, even for armor. Some of the lower base items have lower upgrade costs than some of the higher ones, then the cost starts decreasing again at the high-end items.

Now, all we need is somebody to go crazy and forge a dagger with a huge X, put it on a minion with a huge ToA, and watch all of the really funnily low numbers that pop out!

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] October 9 2009 6:29 PM EDT

Hmmm...

Dagger plus SoC? ;)

Lord Bob October 9 2009 6:34 PM EDT

"But I thought Daggers would have a crappy upgrade curve."

I think it has the best accuracy curve in the game. But obviously, it has next to no damage, making the high accuracy useless.

"Some of the lower base items have lower upgrade costs than some of the higher ones, then the cost starts decreasing again at the high-end items."

The higher items have a lower -curve-. It doesn't mean the cost is lower for each +. But eventually they catch up due to the lower curve, and are far cheaper to upgrade than the low items.

{WW]Nayab [Cult of the Valaraukar] October 9 2009 6:40 PM EDT

I have found that the lower the base damage, the higher the cost for x and lower the cost for +.

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] October 9 2009 6:40 PM EDT

I believe that UC gets the pth increase from ToA based on a katana's nw.

QBRanger October 9 2009 7:24 PM EDT

That dagger is borrowed and with it and its +200, I only get to 450 PTH using my ToA.

QBRanger October 9 2009 7:25 PM EDT

Dog scratched Homicidal Maid [3209]
Inept Apprentice absorbs damage [3209]
Dog glanced off of Homicidal Maid [4047]
Inept Apprentice absorbs damage [4047]
Dog glanced off of Homicidal Maid [4672]
Inept Apprentice absorbs damage [4672]
Dog scratched Homicidal Maid [4744]
Inept Apprentice absorbs damage [4744]
Dog glanced off of Homicidal Maid [3060]
Inept Apprentice absorbs damage [3060]

With 7+M strength and x1111 dagger. Useless even with its massive PTH. Just another item trap.

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] October 9 2009 7:50 PM EDT

The only real useful lower level weapon right now is the Mace. It allows for a cheap combination of the SoC on an enchanter and allows him to dish out some damage. I think we could use a few more interesting combination with other lower level weapons instead of throwing them out or anything. Poison handling gloves to combine with a dagger?
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