6 of 6/20 and 20 of top 100 - RETIRED ! (in General)
November 20 2009 7:45 AM EST
Doesn't this strike anybody as just plain wrong ?
RETIRED 6/20 CHARACTERS (6/20 stops at 3258642 MPR):
Defenders of Athens (3551779)
Jingleheimer Schmidt (3337983)
Other characters close to the CURRENT 6/20 (which were probably inside 6/20 when retired):
Fantastic Four (3227051)
Storm Clash (3213909)
Miami Vice (3212019)
Slot Machine (3049056)
The Prestige (3015133)
Proteus 4 (3005802)
Absolute Zero (2975513)
And here's the rest of the "top 100 MPR" characters that are currently retired:
Spirit Soaring (2819656)
Flavor of the Month (2686987)
Seriously, nobody think this is not good for the game at all ?
November 20 2009 7:47 AM EST
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November 20 2009 7:49 AM EST
The Prestige was mine, and was in the 6/20 at time of retirement.
Mine was retired because I wanted to do something different, that's all. And some of the others were long running chars and in at least one of those I know for definite the player was bored of the strat but didn't want to diminish the char's MPR by retraining.
November 20 2009 9:19 AM EST
I don't know -- what do you think is "wrong" with it?
One way up the score ladder is in dead man's boots. So I would counter your dismay with, "How is this not a GOOD thing?"
Carprofen was in 6/20 when it was retired (interface changes and the nerfing of the tat artist chased her off)
I think it's terrible, the more targets the better as far as I'm concerned. Too few slots and the cost structure for BA make it necessary.
if teams were less disposable it wouldn't be an issue though...anyone here remember cb1? how many retired characters were in the top 100 pr?
I'll buy one of those retired ( > 3.5M ) for xfer cost, =) You can attack me all you want, even though Im not in a standard clan, lol.
November 20 2009 9:46 AM EST
On CB1, one couldn't transfer characters until later into the game's development, correct? So it isn't really a straight comparison. Used to be retirement was the only game in town, so I would imagine there were a lot of higher-up retired characters in CB1 (at least pre-CB2).
Not sure disposability is the issue here. I didn't retire Hubbell for disposal reasons, and novice and JW just mentioned other folks who retired "just because." So, 15% of these 20 teams were retired for completely "normal" reasons.
Where's the problem with this again?
November 20 2009 9:53 AM EST
I didn't make this list cause you did it by MPR, not score!
Anyway, I'm sure most of the people retired because they wanted to. Then again if the characters were worth money I'm sure some would sell them, but right now sentimental value vastly exceeds monetary value. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing.
Still it'd be helpful to take retired characters our of the standings or at least have an option to, for those people looking for opponents. It can be hell sorting through all the retired characters in the lower levels.
"Mine was retired because I wanted to do something different, that's all. And some of the others were long running chars and in at least one of those I know for definite the player was bored of the strat but didn't want to diminish the char's MPR by retraining."
i do see that as being retired because of disposability. it is easier to do something different with a new character than change a developed one.
this is where i think the rolling bonus would help the game tremendously. retraining or even ~gasp~ firing minions wouldn't be so detrimental as you would end up with a little boost to recover the lost xp.
the market for older characters would improve greatly as well in my opinion.
as for cb1, i do not remember, in the 12 months prior to cb2 any retired characters at the top. they were too valuable and if someone was quitting the characters were very desired. i actually don't remember any top characters ever being retired except perhaps temporarily.
"I didn't retire Hubbell for disposal reasons"
i had asked in a cm what your plans were, you were a bit elusive with your answer though. so i ask here, why did you retire him?
November 20 2009 10:08 AM EST
I'd actually like to see a rolling bonus, along with the current NCB system. (Only one can apply at a time)
1. Because it'd be easier to do rather than making sure the system is the same for people starting new characters.
2. No one would be caught in between characters; we'd have a way to deal with current NCBs.
3. You could make the rolling bonus slower than the NCB, but still there so everyone eventually catches up.
The reason CB needs a rolling bonus and other games don't is because there is no level cap. In level cap games everyone reaches it, and is done. CB is constantly growing.
November 20 2009 10:17 AM EST
Because I was done with her.
(Hubbell is a she... If I have called the character "he" in the past, my apologies. *smile*)
just toss them aside when you are done "using" them? bastard! ; )
November 20 2009 10:27 AM EST
Disposable characters rock!!!!
Fantastic Four is mine, its only retired so i can run an NCB for money, im in massive debt and need the cash...
sorry for retiring him.
November 22 2009 1:58 PM EST
"Fantastic Four is mine, its only retired so i can run an NCB for money"
And THAT doesn't sound wrong either to anybody else but me ? :)
November 22 2009 2:18 PM EST
I think Tal is getting paid to run a NCB.
I'm getting paid by DoS to help start his NCB and im running one for myself after with the goal of getting into 6/20 because i don't have one there.
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