Idea about AMF and PL (in General)

This was an idea suggested by someone to me via CM. So I thought I would post it and see.

One problem with DD is that sometimes, especially if you fight someone with a MgS, the AMF backlash even with NSC can be more than the damage you actually do.

As the AMF is calculated for the damage you were supposed to do not the actually damage you really do.

After thinking about it, I think that is a flaw of the system. Not real fair.

So I would like to see 1 of 2 thinks possibly occur. Not playing a mage type character, I have no idea if either is a possibility for fairness:

1) Have AMF be based upon the actual damage you do. Not the potential damage you can do before reductions like the MgS, RBF and armor plus.

2) Have PL work vs AMF backlash. Personally I would love it to work vs GA, but that will be a bit too powerful (any takers?).

Are either of these suggestions out of whack?

I don't think either is really fair, as one nerfs AMF, and the other buffs PL.
However, I think AMF backlash should be reduced by say AC. Sort of like how GA dmg is reduced currently.

The adjustments that would have to be made after either of these was implemented would be huge.

Seems fair to me. However, the mini-nerf would be more likely to come from AMF being overly relied on, rather than fair or unfair. And if the admins don't think it's overly used, then they may not be inclined to tweak it.

Not a bad suggestion at all.

Nov,

Instead of saying a blanket statement like that, why not explain what would be the ramifications of each of my 2 suggestions.

The AMF backlash damage is done when you cast the spell away (it is cast on you and not as a protection on your ennemies minions). There is no way on earth that it would make sense for it to return a percent of the damage you have done since the factors reducing DD's damage are on your ennemy. Plus, AMF lowers the DD damage and it is that number which is returned to you.

So briefly, AMF backlash and reduction calculations would make no sense at all and it would really nerf AMF which is still not that strong.

I've been for idea 1 since AMF started having backlash (it didn't, always, back on CB1?)

If you do 1, do away with NSC's completely, or make wearing NSC's negate the "AMF backlash only for damage done" scenario. Being able to use both NSC's plus only have the backlash be based on damage makes AMF rather unappealing. Having to train AMF already has a foil to it -- the inability to train DM with it.

Salketer, it would be entirely possible. Backlash percentage is known and based on a "full shot", as determined by the ratio of AMF to the level of DD (minus NSC's effect, etc.).

Instead of having the backlash fully calc'd from the start, just calc it for each shot, or sum of damage done by a shot in case of spread-fire DD.

But you'd still be taking the same off the damage done? Just reducing the backlash?
I quite like that
Not sure AMF needs nerfing, but as a mage generally, I like it :-)