I want strategy opinions from YOU! (in General)


Rawr February 1 2010 6:29 PM EST

So my current character Titania has two glaring weaknesses:
1. RoBF
2. Massive DM

The only way I can see myself beating RoBF teams is switching to mini-tank with lifesteal (leaves me vulnerable to other strats but its certainly an option) or using an RoE on my mage to boost its firepower. However, the latter choice means I am not leveling my tattoo and my defenses (AS/GA) is not improving AND my fightlist will significantly shorten.

I cannot think of any way to beat large DM (ie. Joel, Ranger <-- he can beat me if he dumped a little more into DM instead of GA with his 3rd hired minion).

What should I do to improve my team?

Marlfox [Cult of the Valaraukar] February 1 2010 8:18 PM EST

I'm not sure how much more you can do without leaving yourself vulnerable to more teams. And, considering only 5 people can beat you consistently, I'd say you are doing quite well.

Zenai February 1 2010 8:27 PM EST

Rawr in all honesty I have to say it is strictly up to you. The real question here is what is the most important for you presently your char or your tat? In both instances something can be done if you are clever and resourceful enough. Since we all know that you are resourceful and clever simply by looking at your char then I will present a few options.

1) Nevermind it and keep on going to level your tat.

2) Get someone else to level your tat and RoE the Tar outta your Mage and bite the bullet on your fightlist for now.

This is why I set up the deal that I did with LR and Joel, I knew I would get dinged in the fightlist department and possibly lose opponents and gain some farmers. The here and now though is not what I was looking at it was the future........

Rawr February 2 2010 12:06 AM EST

2) Get someone else to level your tat and RoE the Tar outta your Mage and bite the bullet on your fightlist for now.


I'm not worried about people farming me and using the RoE. What I am worried about is, if I'm going to use the RoE to buff my mage, I will become vulnerable to DM teams when I'm done with the RoE. My AS/GA will not be growing, so the current large DM users that I can beat will overtake me during that time (dependent on how long I keep the RoE on, but Ranger will definitely surpass me, and that'll leave him to #1!!!!!!). This is the primary dilemma. If he had another farmer, I might not be so restrained (NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK, BUT MORE OF A PRIDE THING ;-] )

Rawr February 2 2010 12:12 AM EST

Also Yanki and Darth Domo have frighteningly large DM's that sole RoS growth might not be able to handle.

Wraithlin February 2 2010 12:52 AM EST

I'd turn your character blackwing into a heavy wall. Swap his AS for actual HP, and you can leave the EC. Get a heavy wall set and put him up front.

It will help both against the DM/archer teams and the RoBF.

This will however hurt you against AMF/AoE teams since you'll lose the AS he was giving, and your EC will be lowered from the heavy armor penalties, but the higher armor on the front minion should more than make up for at least that part.

I can't say how it will affect the rest of your fightlist but it will improve your chances against DM/archer and RoBF.

Rawr February 2 2010 12:57 AM EST

I'd turn your character blackwing into a heavy wall. Swap his AS for actual HP, and you can leave the EC. Get a heavy wall set and put him up front.


A heavy AC wall would not help against RoBF. The problem with RoBF teams is that they always have a large AMF, so my mage always dies and then the RoBF eats away at my team unretaliated. Secondly, that would take away 1/3 of my teams HP essentially, thus lowering my overall HP moreso than with the AS enchanters I have now. The only DM teams that really matter have either massive (12million +) levels of DM or has insane damage that needs large total HP to defend against. damage mitigation is not very helpful. I've had my mage up to 250 AC without changing the amount of rounds by more than one. and note- the EC is essentially base :)

Rawr February 2 2010 12:58 AM EST

^ thus as zenai noted, by RoE'ing my mage, it will have a significantly larger DD to overcome said AMFs that RoBF teams normally use. But, again, then I'm in the previously mentioned dilemma.

Miandrital February 2 2010 1:01 AM EST

IF you untrained all of the HP on your mage and put it into your DD, would that help against any of the RoBF teams? You would take more damage from AMF per round, but you would also deal way more damage.

Wraithlin February 2 2010 1:05 AM EST

It would make him even more vulnerable to the DM teams, but it might even reduce the damage vs the AMF since it will better his ratio. If he's near the 50% mark on the curve, then he should see less total damage taken.

Miandrital February 2 2010 1:07 AM EST

Seems to me that it would be very hard to stop both RoBF and DM teams. Instead, I would focus on just getting rid of one of the two.

Rawr, could you post some minion stats so we can help a little more?

Rawr February 2 2010 1:08 AM EST

Mian - that is certainly true, the ratio of damage/backlash is certainly worth it against RoBF. But it would probably not be enough to overcome the RoBF teams. Although I'd have to make some calculations to back that statement up. But perhaps consolidating that with RoE concentration may do the trick. to beat Team Rocket/FTW for example, I used a 10.5M CoC (Ice Familiar) with my current 5mil SG.

Also, I do realize that I have an AoF on my mage that may seem counterintuitive to the whole AMF deal. While it amplifies AMF, it also amplifies AS, so my overall fightlist benefits with AoF on mage. I will have to do experiments to see if an AoAC or some other Amulet may help more.

Wraithlin February 2 2010 1:08 AM EST

You could swap to an electric familiar, the DD would be higher than you have right now, and he'd have good HP. Then you could train another AS instead of HP and SG on your mage. Should give you quite a few more rounds vs that RoBF of doing damage.

Of course this doesn't do anything for the DM teams.

Rawr February 2 2010 1:09 AM EST

Seems to me that it would be very hard to stop both RoBF and DM teams. Instead, I would focus on just getting rid of one of the two.


That is indeed the most logical goal, and it appears the best way to do that is to go with RoE. but against as i mentioned before, there is some problems with that (Darth Domo, Yanki, and Heroes overtaking me during the process).

Rawr February 2 2010 1:11 AM EST

You could swap to an electric familiar


I occasionally use an AoJ and slap on a IF to my team and the only RoBF team i cannot beat is KoP. but then, as you mentioned, DM teams have a field day.

Mian- each minion has around 6.5mil levels of spell.

the AS minions are full AS.
Mage is 1.5 mil HP 5 mil SG
4.5 mil GA, 2 mil ish DM.
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