Clan inconsistencies.... (in General)

This isn't the first time, doubt it will be the last.

Nightstrike can you please fix whatever is wrong with this flawed clan tracking system? What is the point of showing clan statistics over time if they are wrong??


I sent a mass clan text showing the current yearly rankings for our clan and the few clans around us...
These are the numbers:

Sent: February 11 7:28 PM EST

Fairy Tail (1,878,100)
Band of Wookies (1,823,360)
Hell Blenders (1,776,148)
death by jabberwocky (1,753,616)

And then checking today the numbers look like this...

Fairy Tail (1,978,962)
death by jabberwocky (1,952,210)
Hell Blenders (1,902,222)
Band of Wookies (1,897,346)

Difference over 5 days:
death by jabberwocky: +198,594
Hell Blenders: +126,074
Fairy Tail: +100,862
Band of Wookies: +73,986

What gives?

Clan standings: 1 week
Band of Wookies (64,170)
Wasting Time (50,694)
The Knighthood (48,142)
death by jabberwocky (47,374)
The Knighthood II (46,492)

Clan standings: 1 month
Wasting Time (211,856)
Band of Wookies (211,450)
The Knighthood (204,614)
death by jabberwocky (199,620)
Battle Royale (199,010)

We've been "outblending" dbj for months, closing the 300-400k gap in our yearly scores, and then passing them last week. Then this week everything gets stupid... You're telling me in 5 days they get a 200k boost to their yearly rankings? What?

I can't see how something could NOT be wrong, considering we've been slowly gaining on everyone to the tune of about 30k points a month...

If we put up 200k points in a month, and another clan above us in the standings puts up 190k points that month, we have only closed the gap 10k points... So it takes time to catch up and pass active clans. Something we have been paying attention to...

So can you please explain how this happens?

Am I just missing something here?

I don't know, my friend. I don't know. Hopefully we get to the bottom of this soon. GL

The system seems to be working in discreet 1 day / 1 week / 1 month intervals for the weekly / monthly / yearly clan stats, but different for each clan depending on clan creation day, I suppose (not sure).

In other words, in the yearly stats, on one day, a specific clan could have 12 months and 30 days worth of points stored, then all of a sudden next day they go to 12 months and 0 days, by dropping the entire previous first month's points. Or it might be the other way around, not sure.
Similar issues with the other stats.

i am not sure how this affects the totals, but remember that if the month that just fell off, or day or whatever time period, was while anyone in a clan had an ncb not purchasing ba and that period is replaced by a ba purchasing period it would impact their score. the opposite would also hold true.

i have no idea if this is what we are seeing, but i know that when one or more of the clan is running an ncb and not buying ba our clan scores will trend downwards and when we all get back to buying ba then it trends upwards. each ncb will affect yearly scores until 12 months have passed since the end of the ncb.

the more ncb runs you had in the past 18 months the more affect it will have on yearly score.

to be more succinct, besides knowing how the month that was just added to the yearly stats panned out, you would also need to be looking at the month that dropped off as well.

triple strike!

if you use the link below and change the number for months, you can see how we switch places throughout the periods.

http://www.carnageblender.com/clans/stats.tcl?interval=7+month

possibly these months but perhaps the update before this last one, they were hardly performing and that was counted then, but not now.

checking the clan mvp's for the year does show who is outblending who more clearly, at least for the whole 12 month period. ; )

Yearly rankings (and all rankings) are trailing, not annual.

Yes, but how exactly is that trailing calculated ?
Because I have occasionally seen from day to day huge changes that can't possibly be explained by just one day's worth of CP.
The only logical explanation that comes to me is that the "trailing period" is not constant in number of days, but instead "vanishes" in much larger increments.

I don't see a problem so far.

1 month
death by jabberwocky (200,618)
Fairy Tail (106,274)
(spread is 94,344)

2 months
death by jabberwocky (208,298)
Fairy Tail (100,268)
(spread is 108,030)

3 months
death by jabberwocky (399,722)
Fairy Tail (261,842)
(spread is 137,880)

4 months
death by jabberwocky (613,088)
Fairy Tail (465,226)
(spread is 147,822)

5 months
death by jabberwocky (802,372)
Fairy Tail (659,014)
(spread is 143358)

6 months
death by jabberwocky (1,029,530)
Fairy Tail (868,626)
(spread is 160,904)

A question I had with eco clans (Sorry to steal the thread kind of, but it does have to do with clans, =P):

Do applicants also count towards the overall income of the clans? I had an applicant the other day, and when I went to "My Clan," it showed $0, but I just assumed it was because he has never made a discussion post, let alone have income rolling in.

Take "snapshots" of the same thing once a day for the next week or so :)

It seems I ran the numbers on the wrong clan. Oh well.

A simple sql query that subtracts the supplied interval from "now".

You also have to account for caching.

I meant no disrespect to Loch and Co.