lesser are now totally unnecessary? (in General)


Admindudemus [jabberwocky] March 28 2010 7:39 PM EDT

i used to say that they were great for tournaments, but with the tournament store that is so awesome, do we really need lessers at all or are they just another pitfall for new users?

Eurynome Bartleby [Bartleby's] March 28 2010 7:46 PM EDT

Re-inking them costs 1184$ There's that.

Apart from this one advantage they have over regulars (they can't become Hals...or Jigs) they're pretty much like Halberds.

Demigod March 28 2010 7:47 PM EDT

Pitfall. I'll still lend out tats in new user posts in hopes of boosting retention (ain't helpin'), and clans will still lend them to new members, so I don't see a reason for lessers.

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] March 28 2010 7:57 PM EDT

They are a good way for a very new user to make a little extra cash and try out lots of different tats for very little cost. They are useful in their way.

DoS [Demon Forging] March 28 2010 8:00 PM EDT

If anyone was brave enough to, they could level a lesser tattoo super high and then charge people to test strat changes with it, you know.. as a service. I have thought about it a few times.

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] March 28 2010 8:06 PM EDT

If anyone was brave enough to, they could level a lesser tattoo super high and then charge people to test strat changes with it, you know.. as a service. I have thought about it a few times.


you could do the same twice as fast with a greater, no?

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] March 28 2010 8:07 PM EDT

No, because it costs a bit more than 1.1k per inking and is a little bit harder to get the tat you want to ink to. You could probably run 4 or 5 testings a day for people with a lesser tat.

DoS [Demon Forging] March 28 2010 8:10 PM EDT

you could do the same twice as fast with a greater, no?

Yeah, it is half the speed to level a lesser, but the problem is things slow down once you get under CB 100%. Since it would take the lesser slower to level, you could just keep untraining and retraining and maintain the 100% CB longer.

Cube March 28 2010 9:52 PM EDT

There's no reason you shouldn't be able to ink from a lesser to a regular tattoo..

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] March 28 2010 10:01 PM EDT

cube, that would address my main problem with them. new users end up with one and waste time growing it that could be spent on a greater.

with many of the greaters now selling for under 100k and even under 25k in some instances, i just don't see it being worthwhile to go through the ideas above to give people ways to test out lessers.

our market could change though if we can get all of our new users that try the game to stick around.

ScY March 28 2010 10:25 PM EDT

They were just as useless before.....

Lord Bob March 29 2010 12:43 AM EDT

I think they are totally useless. Scrap them entirely.

There was an idea a while back that new players should start with a free "blank" tattoo that had no effect and did not add to PR, with one free re-inking to any normal tattoo or familiar once the player reached a certain milestone (like 5000 MPR). I support that idea... so long as the N*B is scrapped.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] March 29 2010 7:10 PM EDT

lesser are now totally unnecessary?


The only time I used a lesser was when I started fighting again after giving all my stuff away and having nothing.

Any existing player, or a NUB with a day or two behind them no longer has any need for a lesser.

Their last vestige of use was for Tournies. With that gone, we should get rid of these, or change them to make them actually worth having.

Like letting them be upgraded into a full.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] March 29 2010 7:12 PM EDT

For thier supporters;

NCB players are gimping thier growth by not using a full tattoo. Either they already have a massive full one, which they should be using to get max CB, or a smaller full tattoo they should be leveling instead.

Same goes for NUBs.

Vets should have thier full tattoo of choice anyway.

Lessers are a newbie trap that really offer nothing.
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