i do get your point, with each change some are happy, some are not. people get mean when they are upset and say things, sometimes to you and sometimes to others. that is all pretty much human nature, like it or not.
My point is less that that kind of thing happens, and more that it happens *WAY* too much.
my point though is that someone who shares supposedly private conversations without the consent of all parties is already being manipulative, dishonest or both and doing it in hopes of gaining something.
I never argued this. Yeah, it's pretty lame to do that.. but (1) it still happens, and (2) this one piece of my initial post was definitely a side issue that you keep focusing on and turning into the primary issue.
This is a very typical thing for a CB forum thread (and I guess most forum threads). Take some post laid out like this:
Main Point A
Supporting point B
Amplifying information C
Anecdote D
Replies then turn into:
Main Point D
Main Point D
Main Point D
.... ok, so admittedly, that probably isn't the best way to explain a scenario when people take tertiary aspects of a statement and promote them to primary pieces. But hopefully someone can rewrite that intelligibly.
But that's why I said you are missing my point. You are focusing on the wrong aspect of my initial post.
I don't care that people forward CM's around. It happens. It's always happened as long as I've been here. Heck, sometimes I get forwards of forwards of forwards. On one occasion, I got a CM that *I* wrote forwarded back to me through 3 other people, and in it I said something like "please keep this between us." It happens, and people are dumb.
Further, people send CM's to admins all the time. It is then the admin's responsibility to handle the situation. Sometimes that means logging in as the user in question and verifying the reality of what transpired. G has described this publicly on several occasions (and TBH, I personally send every admin issue to G anyway; I just don't want to deal with that kind of stuff, and he's underworked right now :). For the record, that is not something that admins do on any sort of regular basis. It's an exceptional circumstance that occurs once in a great while.
if they are willing to do that then what would stop them from baiting someone to say something which is pretty easy to do when people are angry. if that doesn't work, what is there to stop them from just making something up once they gain your trust.
Yes, the people forwarding junk around are just as bad as the people saying it in the first place. I care more about the fact that there is so much anger floating around in the first place, when the situation could be handled MUCH more eloquently.
for those reasons i thought it was worth saying that in my experience people doing that really aren't friendly and be wary. if i misunderstood your comment then i apologize for harping on this.
Yes, please don't harp on this. I never said they were friendly people. I'm just saying that there's a big giant amount of antagonism on this site, and I get a boatload of it directly. I get plenty indirectly, too. I want it to just plain stop. I want people to stop proliferating negativity and start focusing on the good things, start looking at positive things. Evil begets evil. When a group of people gather and start amplifying each other's negative impulses, it does no good for anyone at all. None. And it certainly doesn't motivate me to go and spend more time doing things here.
it does bring up a good question though, who all has access to our cm's and what are the circumstances that they would go into that area?
See above.