What happened to the ToE? (in General)


MissingNo June 24 2010 2:47 PM EDT

It was never good to begin with, and it seems like it's just fodder now. No one who seriously competes uses one because it's so weak and useless. Can this be addressed?

Kefeck [Demonic Serenity] June 24 2010 2:56 PM EDT

The only thing I find silly with a ToE is that a 3.9 million one is just as effective as a 6.1 million level one.

It's really an awesome tattoo to build around if you have a smaller tattoo.

MissingNo June 24 2010 2:59 PM EDT

Wait, what? Really? The wiki says that the protection from Endurance increases as the tattoo grows. If what you say is true, then the ToE sucks even more than I originally thought it did.

BadFish June 24 2010 3:00 PM EDT

The ToE has diminishing returns. It effectively stops improving at a certain point, I'm not sure exactly when, it's likely in the wiki.

Kefeck [Demonic Serenity] June 24 2010 3:03 PM EDT

Here's the endurance page in the wiki.

http://www.carnageblender.com/wiki/Endurance


Also a copy and paste from the endurance page showing the effectiveness of endurance.



A Few Data points
6.5 mil named ToE - .515 (51.5%) Endurance.

5.8 mil named ToE - 0.505 (50.5%) Endurance.

3.6m ToE - .49 (49%) Endurance.

3 mil level ToE - .45 (45%) Endurance.

1.1 mil level ToE - .41 (41%) Endurance.

QBJohnnywas June 24 2010 3:05 PM EDT

Ahem.

http://www.carnageblender.com/inspect_opponent.tcl?opponent_id=119714

Kefeck [Demonic Serenity] June 24 2010 3:06 PM EDT

You are the one and only JW, lol.

QBJohnnywas June 24 2010 3:11 PM EDT

It's true enough that it's effectiveness pretty much starts to drop from about here on in; I think a 10 mill tattoo would give me about 0.56 endurance or something.

It works really well if you set your team up to be strong without a tattoo, which is what I did. The ToE gains me some people, but doesn't need to be there for the majority of my fightlist.

And, alongside the DBs I'm wearing it makes for a great anti-archer strat...

QBJohnnywas June 24 2010 3:11 PM EDT

Mine is just over 6.5 mill by the way. By far and away the smallest tattoo in the upper levels.

Cube June 24 2010 3:30 PM EDT

Well, before the change it was quite overpowered.

MissingNo June 24 2010 3:36 PM EDT

So you guys don't think the ToE is underpowered?

QBJohnnywas June 24 2010 3:40 PM EDT

It reduces the biggest tank's damage by 50%. That's not underpowered. Specialist maybe, but underpowered, no.

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] June 24 2010 4:11 PM EDT

I might switch to ToE once I have enough offense to support it. I tried it for a little bit and ended up stalemating most of the top ranks.
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